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**Thomaswhitee** · 04-04-2011, 04:39 PM

You guys all seem to think that free speech is absolute, that is far from the case. Libel and Slander is not protected and never has been.

Nor is shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater.

Speech that knowingly puts others at extreme risk of life or limb for no reason is not protected under the First Amendment. This is established fact of long standing, there's no dispute over it. The animals that killed the UN people should be hunted down and killed like mad dogs but the pastor should be prosecuted for manslaughter as well. He is equally responsible, as he, or anyone of common sense, should have known this would happen

The right of Free Speech does not excuse depraved indifference to whether one's actions result in another's death. You can have as big and as fast a car as you like, but if you drive it in a school zone at 100mph and kill someone's child, you should be liable for the consequences.

John, that's a really bad analogy.

Driving recklessly naturally results in dangers to pedestrians.

Burning a book on the other side of the planet should have no immediate hazards beyond possibly burning yourself in the process.

To prosecute someone over a book burning for reasons other than fire violations just legitimizes violent responses. It's equally as foolish as the curtailing of liberties that resulted from people trying to hijack planes.

I think most of us recognize the foolishness of the TSA and the Patriot Act, but it should also be recognized that this talk of restricting free speech is in the same boat.

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Thomaswhitee Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 503 Senior Member	You guys all seem to think that free speech is absolute, that is far from the case. Libel and Slander is not protected and never has been. Nor is shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater. Speech that knowingly puts others at extreme risk of life or limb for no reason is not protected under the First Amendment. This is established fact of long standing, there's no dispute over it. The animals that killed the UN people should be hunted down and killed like mad dogs but the pastor should be prosecuted for manslaughter as well. He is equally responsible, as he, or anyone of common sense, should have known this would happen The right of Free Speech does not excuse depraved indifference to whether one's actions result in another's death. You can have as big and as fast a car as you like, but if you drive it in a school zone at 100mph and kill someone's child, you should be liable for the consequences. John, that's a really bad analogy. Driving recklessly naturally results in dangers to pedestrians. Burning a book on the other side of the planet should have no immediate hazards beyond possibly burning yourself in the process. To prosecute someone over a book burning for reasons other than fire violations just legitimizes violent responses. It's equally as foolish as the curtailing of liberties that resulted from people trying to hijack planes. I think most of us recognize the foolishness of the TSA and the Patriot Act, but it should also be recognized that this talk of restricting free speech is in the same boat.
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