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**diutuartina** · 08-03-2011, 05:37 PM

I cite the actual bill and you cite a news article as though that somehow trumps it.

The bill says what it says, and that's what Congress actually did. (That being said, the quotes in the linked news article still only refer to release not transfer.) Congress did nothing to impede transfer until December 2010. Individual Congressmen giving hysterical quotes is not a "block" on the administration.

Sure it does because it put the bill into its proper context where it showed Congress did more than just that bill that was only a vehicle for what they did, explained their full actions and statements and intentions for what they were doing, etc, by their own words. They didn't want them on US soil, period, and offered lame hysterical false pretexts for it. You were around for those times and should recall the banter. I also pointed out why the lame pretexts were bunk.

And it certainly did impede him...you know damn well he can't responsibly move them with Congress deliberately denying funds to do so where he has no place to put them responsibly consistent with their security detail needs, i.e., SuperMax level.

Disagree with the latter half of that statement, obviously. If Mr. Obama becomes apoplectic when individual Congressmen make hysterical quotes, he should not have run for the Presidency. It's certainly not an excuse for inaction.

He didn't become apoplectic about it. Congress impeded his desire to relocate them deliberately. Congressional opposition often occurs when a POTUS wishes to do something. They are not dictators that can do what they wish. Given the opposition then and now, if he wishes to proceed, he must do military tribunals at Gitmo and that's what he's going to do as a result.

08-03-2011, 05:37 PM	#26
diutuartina Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	I cite the actual bill and you cite a news article as though that somehow trumps it. The bill says what it says, and that's what Congress actually did. (That being said, the quotes in the linked news article still only refer to release not transfer.) Congress did nothing to impede transfer until December 2010. Individual Congressmen giving hysterical quotes is not a "block" on the administration. Sure it does because it put the bill into its proper context where it showed Congress did more than just that bill that was only a vehicle for what they did, explained their full actions and statements and intentions for what they were doing, etc, by their own words. They didn't want them on US soil, period, and offered lame hysterical false pretexts for it. You were around for those times and should recall the banter. I also pointed out why the lame pretexts were bunk. And it certainly did impede him...you know damn well he can't responsibly move them with Congress deliberately denying funds to do so where he has no place to put them responsibly consistent with their security detail needs, i.e., SuperMax level. Disagree with the latter half of that statement, obviously. If Mr. Obama becomes apoplectic when individual Congressmen make hysterical quotes, he should not have run for the Presidency. It's certainly not an excuse for inaction. He didn't become apoplectic about it. Congress impeded his desire to relocate them deliberately. Congressional opposition often occurs when a POTUS wishes to do something. They are not dictators that can do what they wish. Given the opposition then and now, if he wishes to proceed, he must do military tribunals at Gitmo and that's what he's going to do as a result.
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