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**VogsHoock** · 08-03-2011, 06:13 PM

The fact based argument is that the Kool Aide drinkers double themselves in half to make excuses for why things are not Obama's fault. Come next year, if you buy into that crap, it will be like he never took office.

I just never saw you as one of those folks. Until today.

Oh horseshit. What I said is fact and quoted with links for it. It's common knowledge. What's horseshit is your attempts to spin this shit for partisan purposes, e.g., your post here at No.14 that you tried to make into its own redundant thread for partisan purposes that got moved here into this existing thread where it belongs:

Apology = an admission of guilt.

By now you've all heard the news: Obama has reversed his two-year-old order halting new military charges against detainees at GITMO... allowing, once again, military tribunals to precede.

He lied.
It was always only crap fed to the wacky left
It was always only something to try and get elected on.
He hopes you forgive and forget... at least by Nov. 2012

He soiled the reputations of two good men... good men that made hard choices, for his own political benefit and only for his own political benefit.

You cheered him on.

He lied
You voted for him

You going to do it again? If you wish to discuss the issue properly with facts, start doing so. That includes any criticisms based on facts. If you wish to waste time inventing and contriving partisan nonsense, however, that's all you're doing and adds nothing to proper discussion of the topic. Now, if you're up for making a fact based argument, I'm all for it.

08-03-2011, 06:13 PM	#32
VogsHoock Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	The fact based argument is that the Kool Aide drinkers double themselves in half to make excuses for why things are not Obama's fault. Come next year, if you buy into that crap, it will be like he never took office. I just never saw you as one of those folks. Until today. Oh horseshit. What I said is fact and quoted with links for it. It's common knowledge. What's horseshit is your attempts to spin this shit for partisan purposes, e.g., your post here at No.14 that you tried to make into its own redundant thread for partisan purposes that got moved here into this existing thread where it belongs: Apology = an admission of guilt. By now you've all heard the news: Obama has reversed his two-year-old order halting new military charges against detainees at GITMO... allowing, once again, military tribunals to precede. He lied. It was always only crap fed to the wacky left It was always only something to try and get elected on. He hopes you forgive and forget... at least by Nov. 2012 He soiled the reputations of two good men... good men that made hard choices, for his own political benefit and only for his own political benefit. You cheered him on. He lied You voted for him You going to do it again? If you wish to discuss the issue properly with facts, start doing so. That includes any criticisms based on facts. If you wish to waste time inventing and contriving partisan nonsense, however, that's all you're doing and adds nothing to proper discussion of the topic. Now, if you're up for making a fact based argument, I'm all for it.
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