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**Kneeniasy** · 11-03-2011, 02:57 AM

And so you are suggesting that the Ataturk quote is somehow significantly removed from the intention of and reasoning behind our own First Amendment?

To the contrary, they seem in perfect agreement to me.

Ataturk's, IMO, actually states the matter a little better, it doesn't leave that loophole about "not establishing a state religion" which many Christian fundamentalists try to use to say you must have some sort of religion, we just don't care what it is. (then to argue it must be generally Christian, since we are a "Christian" country. We are, of course, but only in the sense that most of us profess Christianity)

OTOH Ataturk was making a speech, not writing law. Wise men can say wise things in many ways. And yes, we can use that kind of thinking all the time, it doesn't hurt to be reminded of it.

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Kneeniasy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	And so you are suggesting that the Ataturk quote is somehow significantly removed from the intention of and reasoning behind our own First Amendment? To the contrary, they seem in perfect agreement to me. Ataturk's, IMO, actually states the matter a little better, it doesn't leave that loophole about "not establishing a state religion" which many Christian fundamentalists try to use to say you must have some sort of religion, we just don't care what it is. (then to argue it must be generally Christian, since we are a "Christian" country. We are, of course, but only in the sense that most of us profess Christianity) OTOH Ataturk was making a speech, not writing law. Wise men can say wise things in many ways. And yes, we can use that kind of thinking all the time, it doesn't hurt to be reminded of it.
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