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**Cibirrigmavog** · 07-12-2010, 01:42 PM

I think if anything this poll shows the diversity of opinion within Islam. You can actually read the poll HERE but here's the quick breakdown with regard to harsh laws and death for converting:

As you can see, it changes drastically from country to country.

So, on the one hand, the title of this thread is extremely deceitful (or at least mistaken). The majority of Muslims in some countries support such harsh measures. However, there is only marginal support for them in other countries. Pew doesn't seem to provide an overall ratio, nor do I see how one would be terribly useful.

On the other hand, this hardly seems like a "yawn" moment. Egypt, Pakistan, and Jordan are among the key allies to the West, and yet their numbers on this topic are extremely bad. It's a boring report only if you were already familiar with the massive support for killing converts in these nations. I wasn't.

It's a yawn moment in the sense that the OP is involved in the archetypical right wing disinformation about Islam. Islam is as diverse as Christianity and what better to illustrate that than the actual poll upon which the OP is allegedly based.

Either the OP knowingly distorts the poll or the OP stupidly copies some Islamophobic shite from a blog without even consulting the poll. Either is typical of a certain mentality that is reminiscent of earlier such eras and it's that part that gets boring quickly.

As for the numbers themselves -which are actually outside of the scope of the OP- it's clear that secularization in Islam (see Turkey) has been as effective as it has been in Christianity in order to get rid of the antediluvian ideas that exist in all the revelationary religions.

I have to wonder though what the exact question is that was posed. When one compares the part of the poll you linked with this:

we have in Jordan 81% of the population supporting democracy while at the same time 86% that would favour the death penalty for abdicating Islam. That doesn't make much sense, does it ? Either of the questions must have been phrased in a way that the apparent contradiction wasn't such for the interviewee.

Another result that causes frowns about the methodology is the huge disparity between Jordan and Lebanon (86 vs. 6%). That is very strange given the many similarities and proximity between the countries.

07-12-2010, 01:42 PM	#9
Cibirrigmavog Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 386 Senior Member	I think if anything this poll shows the diversity of opinion within Islam. You can actually read the poll HERE but here's the quick breakdown with regard to harsh laws and death for converting: As you can see, it changes drastically from country to country. So, on the one hand, the title of this thread is extremely deceitful (or at least mistaken). The majority of Muslims in some countries support such harsh measures. However, there is only marginal support for them in other countries. Pew doesn't seem to provide an overall ratio, nor do I see how one would be terribly useful. On the other hand, this hardly seems like a "yawn" moment. Egypt, Pakistan, and Jordan are among the key allies to the West, and yet their numbers on this topic are extremely bad. It's a boring report only if you were already familiar with the massive support for killing converts in these nations. I wasn't. It's a yawn moment in the sense that the OP is involved in the archetypical right wing disinformation about Islam. Islam is as diverse as Christianity and what better to illustrate that than the actual poll upon which the OP is allegedly based. Either the OP knowingly distorts the poll or the OP stupidly copies some Islamophobic shite from a blog without even consulting the poll. Either is typical of a certain mentality that is reminiscent of earlier such eras and it's that part that gets boring quickly. As for the numbers themselves -which are actually outside of the scope of the OP- it's clear that secularization in Islam (see Turkey) has been as effective as it has been in Christianity in order to get rid of the antediluvian ideas that exist in all the revelationary religions. I have to wonder though what the exact question is that was posed. When one compares the part of the poll you linked with this: we have in Jordan 81% of the population supporting democracy while at the same time 86% that would favour the death penalty for abdicating Islam. That doesn't make much sense, does it ? Either of the questions must have been phrased in a way that the apparent contradiction wasn't such for the interviewee. Another result that causes frowns about the methodology is the huge disparity between Jordan and Lebanon (86 vs. 6%). That is very strange given the many similarities and proximity between the countries.
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