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**amannddo** · 07-12-2010, 04:37 PM

It's a yawn moment in the sense that the OP is involved in the archetypical right wing disinformation about Islam. Islam is as diverse as Christianity and what better to illustrate that than the actual poll upon which the OP is allegedly based.

Either the OP knowingly distorts the poll or the OP stupidly copies some Islamophobic shite from a blog without even consulting the poll. Either is typical of a certain mentality that is reminiscent of earlier such eras and it's that part that gets boring quickly.

As for the numbers themselves -which are actually outside of the scope of the OP- it's clear that secularization in Islam (see Turkey) has been as effective as it has been in Christianity in order to get rid of the antediluvian ideas that exist in all the revelationary religions.

Oh, no doubt the OP presented an extremely biased view.

But I thought the data itself was interesting and, in some respects, distressing.

I have to wonder though what the exact question is that was posed. When one compares the part of the poll you linked with this:

we have in Jordan 81% of the population supporting democracy while at the same time 86% that would favour the death penalty for abdicating Islam. That doesn't make much sense, does it ? Either of the questions must have been phrased in a way that the apparent contradiction wasn't such for the interviewee.

I'm not sure there's any inherent contradiction there. If a large enough majority of the population wants the death penalty for abdicating Islam, then that's exactly what a democratic government will enact. In fact, the more democratic the government the more assuredly and quickly it will enact such a law.

I don't think there's anything in democracy that's inherently tolerant of dissent or diversity. In a system in which power comes primarily from having a majority agree with you, it makes a certain amount of sense that the punishment for radically deviating from the cultural/social/religious norm would be particularly harsh.

07-12-2010, 04:37 PM	#10
amannddo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	It's a yawn moment in the sense that the OP is involved in the archetypical right wing disinformation about Islam. Islam is as diverse as Christianity and what better to illustrate that than the actual poll upon which the OP is allegedly based. Either the OP knowingly distorts the poll or the OP stupidly copies some Islamophobic shite from a blog without even consulting the poll. Either is typical of a certain mentality that is reminiscent of earlier such eras and it's that part that gets boring quickly. As for the numbers themselves -which are actually outside of the scope of the OP- it's clear that secularization in Islam (see Turkey) has been as effective as it has been in Christianity in order to get rid of the antediluvian ideas that exist in all the revelationary religions. Oh, no doubt the OP presented an extremely biased view. But I thought the data itself was interesting and, in some respects, distressing. I have to wonder though what the exact question is that was posed. When one compares the part of the poll you linked with this: we have in Jordan 81% of the population supporting democracy while at the same time 86% that would favour the death penalty for abdicating Islam. That doesn't make much sense, does it ? Either of the questions must have been phrased in a way that the apparent contradiction wasn't such for the interviewee. I'm not sure there's any inherent contradiction there. If a large enough majority of the population wants the death penalty for abdicating Islam, then that's exactly what a democratic government will enact. In fact, the more democratic the government the more assuredly and quickly it will enact such a law. I don't think there's anything in democracy that's inherently tolerant of dissent or diversity. In a system in which power comes primarily from having a majority agree with you, it makes a certain amount of sense that the punishment for radically deviating from the cultural/social/religious norm would be particularly harsh.
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