Are you saying that the US coudda, shoudda, woudda won the war on Vietnan? And the result would have been, what? The chance to yell hip, hip hooray! We won! We won! The US lost 55,000 men dead and countless others maimed, but we won! And we get to keep tens of thousands of US troops stationed in Vietman at US taxpayers expense for eternity! We won!