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**DoctorTentonyya** · 02-09-2010, 06:40 AM

We went to war with out the intention to win it. That was the Biggest problem. I don't think we needed to be there to begin with but once you decide to jump, you go there to win. Finally, so you believe we should ignore our agreements whenever we find it expediant to do so?

It's my understanding that after Japan invaded Indochina in WWII and the French colonial government in Vietnam fled back to France, that General Eisenhower promised Ho Chi Minh that if he fought the Japanese, the US wouild not allow the return of French colonial rule after the war. Ho Chi Minh's forces beat back the Japanese, but allegedly because Eisenhower, as President, needed the French to back NATO, he ignored his agreement with Ho and allowed the French return. Then, after the Vietnamese defeated the French with communist support from Russia and China, the US took over the war in place of the French.

If I believed in big government statism at all, I would agree with George Washington's advice in his Farewell Address for the US to avoid "entangling alliances" and mind its own business. It was the overthrow of the democratically elected Mohammed Mossedegh in Iran by the CIA and MI6 in 1953 and the installation of the Shah in Iran, among other things, that have created Arab skepticism about US intentions in the MId-East. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir...Operation_Ajax

02-09-2010, 06:40 AM	#26
DoctorTentonyya Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	We went to war with out the intention to win it. That was the Biggest problem. I don't think we needed to be there to begin with but once you decide to jump, you go there to win. Finally, so you believe we should ignore our agreements whenever we find it expediant to do so? It's my understanding that after Japan invaded Indochina in WWII and the French colonial government in Vietnam fled back to France, that General Eisenhower promised Ho Chi Minh that if he fought the Japanese, the US wouild not allow the return of French colonial rule after the war. Ho Chi Minh's forces beat back the Japanese, but allegedly because Eisenhower, as President, needed the French to back NATO, he ignored his agreement with Ho and allowed the French return. Then, after the Vietnamese defeated the French with communist support from Russia and China, the US took over the war in place of the French. If I believed in big government statism at all, I would agree with George Washington's advice in his Farewell Address for the US to avoid "entangling alliances" and mind its own business. It was the overthrow of the democratically elected Mohammed Mossedegh in Iran by the CIA and MI6 in 1953 and the installation of the Shah in Iran, among other things, that have created Arab skepticism about US intentions in the MId-East. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir...Operation_Ajax
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