Who said anything about ALWAYS? I usually do play w/ something on the line, so it's not like I'm out there ALWAYS playing by "my" rules. I was speaking more of the beginning golfers, or the high HCP golfers who probably aren't going to gain ANYTHING by playing by the rules to the T. Those folks need all the help and confidence they can get so I don't see a problem for them to improve their lie. Or move the ball a foot or two to get out from behind a tree. This game is hard enough, why not let the high HCP'ers play how they want to? And if it moves them along quicker, all the better. When I was a beginner and a high HCP'er, I would pick my ball up, and/or even skip a hole to get out of some guys' way. I would consider that good etiquette. BUT, I think I was breaking a rule or two for doing that, right? I mean, are we on tour here, or what?