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**Hmwmzian** · 01-06-2010, 02:02 PM

It seems pretty standard that he'd be charged.

Military are frequently charged for lost, damaged, or destroyed equipment for which they are responsible. So frequently that there's even an official form (DD Form 362: Statement of Charges) for the purpose.

As far as whether or not charging Pfleider in this instance is appropriate, it's hard to say based on the article.

The article doesn't include a link to the Statement of Charges, it doesn't indicate what happened to Pfleider between the time he was shot and the time he was flown back to the US, it doesn't indicate where or when the equipment went missing. In short, it doesn't provide any of the information that would be necessary to determine whether or not Gary Pfleider should reasonably be expected to bear the expense of the lost gear.

If Pfeider "lost" this gear because he had his TA50 cut off of him on the battlefield and was immediately medevaced to a field hospital and then directly back to Germany or the U.S. then I agree the charges are inappropriate.

But the article doesn't say that.

The article doesn't say anything at all about the actual circumstances of this incident.

It's very possible that Pfeider is getting screwed, or at the least he's getting jerked around a little because I have no doubt that if he actually has a legitimate claim it'll eventually get taken care of in his favor.

It's also very possible that Pfeider lost the equipment he's being charged for two weeks before he was wounded and is trying to use his wound as an excuse not to pay for gear he is, by all rights, responsible for.

I'd like to see the full details.

01-06-2010, 02:02 PM	#3
Hmwmzian Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 495 Senior Member	It seems pretty standard that he'd be charged. Military are frequently charged for lost, damaged, or destroyed equipment for which they are responsible. So frequently that there's even an official form (DD Form 362: Statement of Charges) for the purpose. As far as whether or not charging Pfleider in this instance is appropriate, it's hard to say based on the article. The article doesn't include a link to the Statement of Charges, it doesn't indicate what happened to Pfleider between the time he was shot and the time he was flown back to the US, it doesn't indicate where or when the equipment went missing. In short, it doesn't provide any of the information that would be necessary to determine whether or not Gary Pfleider should reasonably be expected to bear the expense of the lost gear. If Pfeider "lost" this gear because he had his TA50 cut off of him on the battlefield and was immediately medevaced to a field hospital and then directly back to Germany or the U.S. then I agree the charges are inappropriate. But the article doesn't say that. The article doesn't say anything at all about the actual circumstances of this incident. It's very possible that Pfeider is getting screwed, or at the least he's getting jerked around a little because I have no doubt that if he actually has a legitimate claim it'll eventually get taken care of in his favor. It's also very possible that Pfeider lost the equipment he's being charged for two weeks before he was wounded and is trying to use his wound as an excuse not to pay for gear he is, by all rights, responsible for. I'd like to see the full details.
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