[Indian Butt Magic]

A lot of misinformation here. First off, I'm not aware of anyone being killed under our captivity. really

The online news magazine Salon has reported on multiple deaths of Iraqi prisoners in U.S. custody,[10] and according to a report issued by the American Civil Liberties Union, at least 28 have died at Abu Ghraib.[11
source, Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Second, it wasn't private contractors or the CIA at Abu Gharaib. hmmmmm

The prisoner Manadel al-Jamadi died in Abu Ghraib prison after being interrogated and tortured by a CIA officer and a private contractor. The torture included physical violence and strappado hanging whereby the victim's is hung from the wrists with the hands tied behind the back. His death has been labeled a homicide by the US military [8], but neither of the two men that caused his death have been charged. The private contractor was granted immunity.[9] same source

It was a bunch of stupid soldiers being stupid. The worst thing that came out of that was them being stripped naked maybe a little more

Major General Antonio Taguba has stated that there is photographic evidence of rape being carried out by American military personnel at Abu Ghraib.[12] An Iraqi teenage boy was raped by a uniformed man while photos of it were taken by a female US military police.[13] The alleged rapist was identified by a witness as an American-Egyptian who worked as a translator, and who is now the subject of a civil court case in the US.[12] sounds a little worse than being stripped naked.

but wait there's more

Another photo shows an American soldier apparently raping a female prisoner.[12] Other photos show sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube, and a female prisoner having her clothing forcibly removed to expose her breasts.[12] Taguba has supported President Obama's decision not to release the photos, stating “These pictures show torture, abuse, rape and every indecency.”[12] geez that communist, didn't wanna release the pictures

In another case, a female inmate was raped by an American military policeman. In a third reported case, witnesses said US guards repeatedly raped a 14 year old girl in 2003.[14]. In a fourth reported case, Senior US officials admitted rape had taken place at Abu Ghraib.[15] man these guys really act out when they're bored

They stressed him out so bad that the man died. The next day the medics came in and put his body on a stretcher, placed a fake I.V. in his arm [to suggest he died under medical care] and took him away. This OGA (other governmental agency) [prisoner] was never processed and therefore never had a number.
—Ivan Frederick I'm not aware of anyone being killed under our captivity. Care to revise that statement?

The New York Times, in a report on January 12, 2005,[23] reported testimony suggesting that the following events had taken place at Abu Ghraib:

Urinating on detainees
Jumping on detainee's leg (a limb already wounded by gunfire) with such force that it could not thereafter heal properly
Continuing by pounding detainee's wounded leg with collapsible metal baton
Pouring phosphoric acid on detainees
Sodomization of detainees with a baton
Tying ropes to the detainees' legs or penises and dragging them across the floor. I hate it when these guys get bored.

As far a secret prisons, was it OK for Clinton to do it as well? It was under Clinton were extraordinary rendition was implemented. It's wrong I don't care who does it. Did you have a point?

I'd also rather be water boarded than have some real, permanent, torture being done to me. Have you been water boarded? I have a close relative that was water boarded as a part of Marine Corps training, he can't watch a video of it.

I would never defend any "war crimes" by FARC, or anyone else for that matter, but when Americans behave in this manner it is despicable, and it is a REAL WAR CRIME.