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**DownloadADOBEsoftware** · 03-05-2010, 03:46 AM

There is no realistic call for invasion of Iran. I don't know where you dreamed this up from but it's just not there. The only reason there is a slightest hint of people thinking about it is because no one wants to see a nuclear Iran.

Yes, we'd roll right over them. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want us there but that is irrelevant. Yes, they could do gorilla warfare, just like what is happening in Iraq and what is happening in Afghanistan. The point is that we would roll over the Iranian military establishment.

And my point was that wouldn't matter one tinker's damn. The whole point of guerilla warfare is that the 'superior' enemy is tricked by his own victories over the 'weaker' opponent. He 'wins' battle after battle until he finally loses the war.

If we wanted to go a step further, the regime is already on unstable footing. It wouldn't take a whole lot for us to disrupt the regimes forces, and let the Iranian people already in the streets do the rest. Having a few division sized formations set loose in the Iranian interior to help secure the major cities would go a long way.

The greatest risk is the stranglehold the regime has on the mechanisms of civilized life. We saw in Iraq what happens when the trained bureaucrats pack up and go to ground. In this case I think there is enough opposition politicians to fill the gap, so that we can avoid a long term occupation.

On that same note, thats why it is so vital at home to avoid dependence on government.

Wait, wait, wait. Less than 35 years ago these people raided our Embassy and kicked us out of the country. Since then the main thing that has kept them going through wars oppression and hardship has been their hatred of the Great Satan, us. While there is opposition none of it is favorable to the West and there is still, afaik, no credible armed resistance to the present regime of any kind.

And now you think that they're going to welcome our invading Army? for god's sake HOW do you come to that conclusion???

Re-read my post

No occupation = No guerrilla war

No large formations, no taking the cities, nothing like that.

I know, I know, until the people lay down their arms to welcome the Americans.

I'm sorry but I just don't believe there is an American inside every muslim fighting to get out. It is historically proverbial by this point that all bombing alone does is stiffen resistance. All you would do would be to cut off our gasoline, increase terrorism by a thousandfold, cost us several trillions more and ultimately involve us in yet another unwinnable land war when you were finally forced to send ground troops in.

03-05-2010, 03:46 AM	#26
DownloadADOBEsoftware Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 450 Senior Member	There is no realistic call for invasion of Iran. I don't know where you dreamed this up from but it's just not there. The only reason there is a slightest hint of people thinking about it is because no one wants to see a nuclear Iran. Yes, we'd roll right over them. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't want us there but that is irrelevant. Yes, they could do gorilla warfare, just like what is happening in Iraq and what is happening in Afghanistan. The point is that we would roll over the Iranian military establishment. And my point was that wouldn't matter one tinker's damn. The whole point of guerilla warfare is that the 'superior' enemy is tricked by his own victories over the 'weaker' opponent. He 'wins' battle after battle until he finally loses the war. If we wanted to go a step further, the regime is already on unstable footing. It wouldn't take a whole lot for us to disrupt the regimes forces, and let the Iranian people already in the streets do the rest. Having a few division sized formations set loose in the Iranian interior to help secure the major cities would go a long way. The greatest risk is the stranglehold the regime has on the mechanisms of civilized life. We saw in Iraq what happens when the trained bureaucrats pack up and go to ground. In this case I think there is enough opposition politicians to fill the gap, so that we can avoid a long term occupation. On that same note, thats why it is so vital at home to avoid dependence on government. Wait, wait, wait. Less than 35 years ago these people raided our Embassy and kicked us out of the country. Since then the main thing that has kept them going through wars oppression and hardship has been their hatred of the Great Satan, us. While there is opposition none of it is favorable to the West and there is still, afaik, no credible armed resistance to the present regime of any kind. And now you think that they're going to welcome our invading Army? for god's sake HOW do you come to that conclusion??? Re-read my post No occupation = No guerrilla war No large formations, no taking the cities, nothing like that. I know, I know, until the people lay down their arms to welcome the Americans. I'm sorry but I just don't believe there is an American inside every muslim fighting to get out. It is historically proverbial by this point that all bombing alone does is stiffen resistance. All you would do would be to cut off our gasoline, increase terrorism by a thousandfold, cost us several trillions more and ultimately involve us in yet another unwinnable land war when you were finally forced to send ground troops in.
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