What you fail to understand is that 30,000 soldiers would have been more than enough to turn Afghanistan into an overwhelming victory, if our military was actually allowed to bring its full power (no, not nukes) to bear. Since Viet Nam, the liberals in this country have allowed the specter of dead innocents, also known as collateral damage, to hamstring our military from winning. When the enemy uses guerrilla tactics, like hiding amongst civilians, we are especially put at a disadvantage. Now you have been educated on the subject. Go and whine no more. "See it through properly"? We will still be in Afghanistan long after Carter, I mean Uh-bama, is gone from the White House. Now that is some extra strength crack.