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**elapicearpisp** · 04-10-2007, 06:12 PM

I have no particular investment either way, so claiming I am "stalling" is baseless and pointless.

Besides, the author of the article plainly states that the events in question are still contested.

Matt

you’re claiming to no investment in this issue? that surprises me. first, i’d expect most people to have a powerful, visceral reaction to a story of this sort. hats off to you if you can manage to read about that stuff without feeling emotion. but i’m also curious -- what would YOU say your political affiliation is?

and yes, it’s still contested in that it’s still being investigated. this doesn’t mean that we can’t examine the evidence and come to our own conclusions as private citizens. imagine if someone had stood around the water cooler during the OJ simpson trial and said, “now, now, in fairness, let’s await a verdict.” they’d be laughed out of the room.

they’re saying blackwater’s been involved in something like 200 shooting incidents (that we know of, they themselves admit that most of the times they fire on people there’s no paper trail created) and in 80 percent of the incidents they shot first. you have to evaluate the evidence on your own but here’s the thing -- if blackwater really is behaving recklessly and without accountability in iraq and someone tries to defend the company for partisan or other reasons, they’re actively making it more likely that massacres like this will continue to happen in the future. anyone defending blackwater needs to square this with their own conscience.

04-10-2007, 06:12 PM	#8
elapicearpisp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	I have no particular investment either way, so claiming I am "stalling" is baseless and pointless. Besides, the author of the article plainly states that the events in question are still contested. Matt you’re claiming to no investment in this issue? that surprises me. first, i’d expect most people to have a powerful, visceral reaction to a story of this sort. hats off to you if you can manage to read about that stuff without feeling emotion. but i’m also curious -- what would YOU say your political affiliation is? and yes, it’s still contested in that it’s still being investigated. this doesn’t mean that we can’t examine the evidence and come to our own conclusions as private citizens. imagine if someone had stood around the water cooler during the OJ simpson trial and said, “now, now, in fairness, let’s await a verdict.” they’d be laughed out of the room. they’re saying blackwater’s been involved in something like 200 shooting incidents (that we know of, they themselves admit that most of the times they fire on people there’s no paper trail created) and in 80 percent of the incidents they shot first. you have to evaluate the evidence on your own but here’s the thing -- if blackwater really is behaving recklessly and without accountability in iraq and someone tries to defend the company for partisan or other reasons, they’re actively making it more likely that massacres like this will continue to happen in the future. anyone defending blackwater needs to square this with their own conscience.
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