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**markphata** · 02-11-2009, 02:24 PM

Its clear to me that Pres. Obama is just another Republican with regards to foreign policy. Same policy towards Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Plus, he talks like a NeoCon. He has no right to play God with these peoples lives for his militaristic vision of the Middle East. His whole cabinet should be fired. Hillary is just a figurehead, her leadership qualities are manufactured by the media, she has no diplomatic skills. Panetta is a yes man, with no ideas about changing anything. Gates a NeoCon hold over, and was probably kept for a smoother transition, or because of the President's incredible lack of guts to turn back NeoCon agendas. These people do not constitute
"Change We Can Believe In."

Liberals, we've been had.

Amnesty 'shocked' by Bagram claims

"A BBC investigation has uncovered allegations that prisoners were abused and humiliated at the US-run Bagram military base in Afghanistan.

American officials have denied the claims and insist that all prisoners are treated humanely.

Neil Durkin from Amnesty International said the organisation had been refused access to Bagram in the past. "

news video clips:

BBC NEWS | Special Reports | Amnesty 'shocked' by Bagram claims

More mainstream news articles RE: torture under Obama

Ongoing Torture | AfterDowningStreet.org

There is no objective reason why anyone should believe denials by the American government regarding inhumane treatment of prisoners. The unwillingness to allow AI to have access, while not definitively demonstrating American guilt, certainly does not bolster the crediblilty (if any) of any such denials.

If the claim regarding defying the order of a judge is true, then someone is trying to hide something.

02-11-2009, 02:24 PM	#8
markphata Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 417 Senior Member	Its clear to me that Pres. Obama is just another Republican with regards to foreign policy. Same policy towards Gaza, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Plus, he talks like a NeoCon. He has no right to play God with these peoples lives for his militaristic vision of the Middle East. His whole cabinet should be fired. Hillary is just a figurehead, her leadership qualities are manufactured by the media, she has no diplomatic skills. Panetta is a yes man, with no ideas about changing anything. Gates a NeoCon hold over, and was probably kept for a smoother transition, or because of the President's incredible lack of guts to turn back NeoCon agendas. These people do not constitute "Change We Can Believe In." Liberals, we've been had. Amnesty 'shocked' by Bagram claims "A BBC investigation has uncovered allegations that prisoners were abused and humiliated at the US-run Bagram military base in Afghanistan. American officials have denied the claims and insist that all prisoners are treated humanely. Neil Durkin from Amnesty International said the organisation had been refused access to Bagram in the past. " news video clips: BBC NEWS \| Special Reports \| Amnesty 'shocked' by Bagram claims More mainstream news articles RE: torture under Obama Ongoing Torture \| AfterDowningStreet.org There is no objective reason why anyone should believe denials by the American government regarding inhumane treatment of prisoners. The unwillingness to allow AI to have access, while not definitively demonstrating American guilt, certainly does not bolster the crediblilty (if any) of any such denials. If the claim regarding defying the order of a judge is true, then someone is trying to hide something.
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