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**giftplas** · 11-02-2010, 09:46 PM

Re: O'Sullivan Bere:

At one point in my reply I used the word "exactly" and it was meant to agree with the statement that laws can be made that are convoluted (Devious so as to legitimize that which might otherwise be rejected upon closer examination)

IMO Assassination as a preemptive action especially by our government contradicts our system of justice and constitution unless war is declared by the authority given our congress thus preserving the safeguards built into the document in respect to rule by majority.

I understood.

But I still go back to what is deemed an 'assassination.'

Here, this person is actively engaged in attacking the US and encouraging and helping others do the same as an AQ member. AQ is not a nation; it's a criminal organisation IMO. There is no 'war' to be declared against criminals. Even dealing with criminals, self-defence rights exist. IMO, the US and its agents don't have to declare war on each and every criminal they face in order to confront and defend themselves and the public they represent from being assailed by them and it's not the kind of action that the war clause in the Constitution is meant to address.

11-02-2010, 09:46 PM	#21
giftplas Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	Re: O'Sullivan Bere: At one point in my reply I used the word "exactly" and it was meant to agree with the statement that laws can be made that are convoluted (Devious so as to legitimize that which might otherwise be rejected upon closer examination) IMO Assassination as a preemptive action especially by our government contradicts our system of justice and constitution unless war is declared by the authority given our congress thus preserving the safeguards built into the document in respect to rule by majority. I understood. But I still go back to what is deemed an 'assassination.' Here, this person is actively engaged in attacking the US and encouraging and helping others do the same as an AQ member. AQ is not a nation; it's a criminal organisation IMO. There is no 'war' to be declared against criminals. Even dealing with criminals, self-defence rights exist. IMO, the US and its agents don't have to declare war on each and every criminal they face in order to confront and defend themselves and the public they represent from being assailed by them and it's not the kind of action that the war clause in the Constitution is meant to address.
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