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**Katoabralia** · 08-12-2009, 04:06 PM

I'm more interested in defining victory conditions than being able to declare "Victory".

I don't think Obama set clear victory conditions.

It's pretty much the same vague agenda as Iraq. Bring the local army up to a point where they can stand on their own and leave. The problem is that that will take forever and doesn't mesh with his timetable. There is no real victory in either Iraq or in Afghanistan. On both counts we initially dominated, but we haven't proven that there was a net improvement in stability until we are able to leave without the house of cards falling down.

08-12-2009, 04:06 PM	#9
Katoabralia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 403 Senior Member	I'm more interested in defining victory conditions than being able to declare "Victory". I don't think Obama set clear victory conditions. It's pretty much the same vague agenda as Iraq. Bring the local army up to a point where they can stand on their own and leave. The problem is that that will take forever and doesn't mesh with his timetable. There is no real victory in either Iraq or in Afghanistan. On both counts we initially dominated, but we haven't proven that there was a net improvement in stability until we are able to leave without the house of cards falling down.
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