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**EliteFranceska** · 08-29-2012, 10:31 PM

ahoy Thorhammer,

'tis just an observation from this and other Libya related threads, matey. it just seems like outrage and a yearnin' fer justice hath a short half life here on USPO. 'tis like Lockerbie happened in the 1800's.

...and, thar does appear to be a kind 'o glee at the prospect 'o a NATO defeat.

thats just what i see, Thorhammer, at least in some quarters 'o USPO.

- MeadHallPirate

Knock on wood but it does seems Gadaffi is nearing his end in power, e.g.,

Libya: former prime minister defects, dealing Col Gaddafi another blow
Libyan rebels have said that a former deputy of Col Gaddafi has defected in another blow to the increasingly isolated Libyan leader.
By Damien McElroy in Zawiyah and Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent11:16PM BST 19 Aug 2011

Abdessalam Jalloud, a former Libyan prime minister who was sacked by Gaddafi in 1990s fled Tripoli to rebel-held Zintan on Friday.

Mr Jalloud joined the daily exodus of hundreds of Tripolitanians out of the beseiged capital and declared he would support the uprising against the dictator. "This is very big news. He has declared that he will work with the revolution," said an official with the Western Military Council.

The official said that Mr Jalloud has not met Col Gaddafi in many years. But he did report that checkpoints out of Tripoli had been abandoned as security forces desert the regime.

Mr Jalloud is due to make a public statement denouncing Gaddafi in Benghazi, the rebel capital on Saturday.

The defection came as aid workers were preparing a mass evacuation of foreigners from Tripoli on Friday night as Western leaders discussed plans for the likely fall of Col Gaddafi, the long-term Libyan leader.

. . .

Bitter fighting continued on the two main front lines near the capital, at Zawiyah 30 miles to the west of Tripoli and in Zlitan, 70 miles to the east, where the rebels have pushed out slowly from their enclave in Misurata.

The rebels said they had taken control of most of Zlitan, seen as a Gaddafi stronghold, though they had lost 32 men in doing so.

Gaddafi troops fought back in Zawiyah, but last night the rebels claimed to have taken the central square and the hospital in the east of the city, consolidating their hold. Air raids have damaged the regime’s ability to reinforce its troops.

One raid hit a large compound, which neighbours said belonged to Abdullah al-Senussi, Col Gaddafi’s brother-in-law and security chief. A child’s swing and a fountain could be seen in the ruins, but neighbours were unable to say if Mr Senussi, who faces charges at the International Criminal Court along with Col Gaddafi and the leader’s son, Saif al-Islam, had been at home.

Another casualty was the brother of Mussa Ibrahim, the main government spokesman who regularly addressed televised press conferences.

Hasan Ali Ibrahim, described as a student, was in the centre of Zawiyah when he was hit by a missile fired by a Nato helicopter, officials said.

Nato also dropped leaflets over Tripoli itself, calling on residents to rise up against the regime, a clear attempt to discourage forces being redeployed away from the city.

. . .
Libya: former prime minister defects, dealing Col Gaddafi another blow - Telegraph

Report: Gaddafi ill and ready to leave Libya
Published August 17th, 2011 - 17:22 GMT

A Libyan military source was quoted as saying on Wednesday that Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was likely to step down and delegate his powers to Muhammad Alqamoda, the Minister of Justice in the Libyan regime.

An Arabic newspaper quoted a source in the Libyan army as saying: "Colonel Gaddafi's conditions are an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of NATO forces." Then he and his family would departure Libya.

"Two Airbus aircraft from South Africa landed at Tripoli International Airport. One of them included a delegation while the second was empty of passengers," the source said, adding that the planes may be ready to transfer Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, his family members and some members of his regime to Venezuela.

It seems that these recent developments are the result of a significant progress made in negotiations between the rival parties. These talks are being held in Tunisia. It is reported that the envoy of Venezuela President Hugo Chávez, arrived to the island of Djerba, Tunisia, where he met, according to informed sources, representatives from Gaddafi government.

Some sources claim Gaddafi is ill and in need for urgent medical treatment outside Libya. It is reported that the Libyan leader sent his chief aide, Bashir Saleh to Mali and the island of Djerba in Tunisia to meet with British and French officials, in order to search for a way "how to get Gaddafi and his family out from Libya." Report: Gaddafi ill and ready to leave Libya | Al Bawaba

NBC: Gadhafi making plans for leaving Libya
Leader, family could be granted exile in Tunisia, US intelligence reports say
Below:
NBC News and news services
updated 8/19/2011 7:57:20 AM ET

Moammar Gadhafi is making preparations for a departure from Libya with his family for possible exile in Tunisia, U.S. officials have told NBC News, citing intelligence reports.

One official suggested it was possible that Gadhafi would leave within days, NBC News reported.

The information obtained by NBC News follows a series of optimistic statements this week from U.S. officials that Gadhafi would soon give up the five-month-old fight and and leave Libya.

. . . NBC: Gadhafi making plans for Libya departure - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com

In Libya, rebels plan for post-Gaddafi era - The Washington Post

08-29-2012, 10:31 PM	#14
EliteFranceska Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	ahoy Thorhammer, 'tis just an observation from this and other Libya related threads, matey. it just seems like outrage and a yearnin' fer justice hath a short half life here on USPO. 'tis like Lockerbie happened in the 1800's. ...and, thar does appear to be a kind 'o glee at the prospect 'o a NATO defeat. thats just what i see, Thorhammer, at least in some quarters 'o USPO. - MeadHallPirate Knock on wood but it does seems Gadaffi is nearing his end in power, e.g., Libya: former prime minister defects, dealing Col Gaddafi another blow Libyan rebels have said that a former deputy of Col Gaddafi has defected in another blow to the increasingly isolated Libyan leader. By Damien McElroy in Zawiyah and Richard Spencer, Middle East Correspondent11:16PM BST 19 Aug 2011 Abdessalam Jalloud, a former Libyan prime minister who was sacked by Gaddafi in 1990s fled Tripoli to rebel-held Zintan on Friday. Mr Jalloud joined the daily exodus of hundreds of Tripolitanians out of the beseiged capital and declared he would support the uprising against the dictator. "This is very big news. He has declared that he will work with the revolution," said an official with the Western Military Council. The official said that Mr Jalloud has not met Col Gaddafi in many years. But he did report that checkpoints out of Tripoli had been abandoned as security forces desert the regime. Mr Jalloud is due to make a public statement denouncing Gaddafi in Benghazi, the rebel capital on Saturday. The defection came as aid workers were preparing a mass evacuation of foreigners from Tripoli on Friday night as Western leaders discussed plans for the likely fall of Col Gaddafi, the long-term Libyan leader. . . . Bitter fighting continued on the two main front lines near the capital, at Zawiyah 30 miles to the west of Tripoli and in Zlitan, 70 miles to the east, where the rebels have pushed out slowly from their enclave in Misurata. The rebels said they had taken control of most of Zlitan, seen as a Gaddafi stronghold, though they had lost 32 men in doing so. Gaddafi troops fought back in Zawiyah, but last night the rebels claimed to have taken the central square and the hospital in the east of the city, consolidating their hold. Air raids have damaged the regime’s ability to reinforce its troops. One raid hit a large compound, which neighbours said belonged to Abdullah al-Senussi, Col Gaddafi’s brother-in-law and security chief. A child’s swing and a fountain could be seen in the ruins, but neighbours were unable to say if Mr Senussi, who faces charges at the International Criminal Court along with Col Gaddafi and the leader’s son, Saif al-Islam, had been at home. Another casualty was the brother of Mussa Ibrahim, the main government spokesman who regularly addressed televised press conferences. Hasan Ali Ibrahim, described as a student, was in the centre of Zawiyah when he was hit by a missile fired by a Nato helicopter, officials said. Nato also dropped leaflets over Tripoli itself, calling on residents to rise up against the regime, a clear attempt to discourage forces being redeployed away from the city. . . . Libya: former prime minister defects, dealing Col Gaddafi another blow - Telegraph Report: Gaddafi ill and ready to leave Libya Published August 17th, 2011 - 17:22 GMT A Libyan military source was quoted as saying on Wednesday that Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi was likely to step down and delegate his powers to Muhammad Alqamoda, the Minister of Justice in the Libyan regime. An Arabic newspaper quoted a source in the Libyan army as saying: "Colonel Gaddafi's conditions are an immediate ceasefire and the withdrawal of NATO forces." Then he and his family would departure Libya. "Two Airbus aircraft from South Africa landed at Tripoli International Airport. One of them included a delegation while the second was empty of passengers," the source said, adding that the planes may be ready to transfer Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, his family members and some members of his regime to Venezuela. It seems that these recent developments are the result of a significant progress made in negotiations between the rival parties. These talks are being held in Tunisia. It is reported that the envoy of Venezuela President Hugo Chávez, arrived to the island of Djerba, Tunisia, where he met, according to informed sources, representatives from Gaddafi government. Some sources claim Gaddafi is ill and in need for urgent medical treatment outside Libya. It is reported that the Libyan leader sent his chief aide, Bashir Saleh to Mali and the island of Djerba in Tunisia to meet with British and French officials, in order to search for a way "how to get Gaddafi and his family out from Libya." Report: Gaddafi ill and ready to leave Libya \| Al Bawaba NBC: Gadhafi making plans for leaving Libya Leader, family could be granted exile in Tunisia, US intelligence reports say Below: NBC News and news services updated 8/19/2011 7:57:20 AM ET Moammar Gadhafi is making preparations for a departure from Libya with his family for possible exile in Tunisia, U.S. officials have told NBC News, citing intelligence reports. One official suggested it was possible that Gadhafi would leave within days, NBC News reported. The information obtained by NBC News follows a series of optimistic statements this week from U.S. officials that Gadhafi would soon give up the five-month-old fight and and leave Libya. . . . NBC: Gadhafi making plans for Libya departure - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com In Libya, rebels plan for post-Gaddafi era - The Washington Post
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