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**Fiesialenp** · 08-29-2012, 10:31 PM

Please tell me how come:
* the colonies of Britain can secede, becoming individual sovereign States;
* Texas can secede from Mexico, becoming a sovereign State;
* the individual sovereign States can secede from the Articles of Confederation, formed in "perpetual union;"
* the counties of western Virginia can secede from Virginia and accepted by the US as a sovereign State in violation of Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution;
* but South Carolina and the rest of the South cannot secede from the US not formed in "perpetual union?"

BTW, armed revolution is only necessary after peaceful secession is denied. As JFK said, "Those who make peaceful evolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."

I think to some extent you've answered your own question with that last paragraph. If by seceding you mean peacefully leaving whatever you were part of before. Then it's fair to say that Britains former colonies ( I take it you're referring to what became the USA ) didn't secede - they rebelled and won. Likewise Texas rebelled against Mexico and won. And the reason South Carolina and the rest didn't secede ( or succeed ) is they rebelled and.....lost.

Like the chinese bloke said " power grows out of the barrel of a gun "

08-29-2012, 10:31 PM	#14
Fiesialenp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 644 Senior Member	Please tell me how come: * the colonies of Britain can secede, becoming individual sovereign States; * Texas can secede from Mexico, becoming a sovereign State; * the individual sovereign States can secede from the Articles of Confederation, formed in "perpetual union;" * the counties of western Virginia can secede from Virginia and accepted by the US as a sovereign State in violation of Article IV, Section 3 of the US Constitution; * but South Carolina and the rest of the South cannot secede from the US not formed in "perpetual union?" BTW, armed revolution is only necessary after peaceful secession is denied. As JFK said, "Those who make peaceful evolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." I think to some extent you've answered your own question with that last paragraph. If by seceding you mean peacefully leaving whatever you were part of before. Then it's fair to say that Britains former colonies ( I take it you're referring to what became the USA ) didn't secede - they rebelled and won. Likewise Texas rebelled against Mexico and won. And the reason South Carolina and the rest didn't secede ( or succeed ) is they rebelled and.....lost. Like the chinese bloke said " power grows out of the barrel of a gun "
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