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**lerobudrse** · 08-29-2012, 10:32 PM

So what? Really. So fucking what? I'm talking to a dad at my kid's karate class last night and he's a reserve guy and he probably has to go over to Afghanistan in a couple of weeks. He's leaving his real job and his real family and going over there for what? He might not come home. I'm not being a smart ass here - I really want to know what everyone thinks is going to be accomplished over there - or what they think we are accomplishing or preventing with all these folks going over there? I say this is the perfect time to realize that we are not shaping anything over there, not accomplishing anything sustainable, and it's time to get the fuck out. This has been a massive fuckup by Bush Jr that has been rationalized as much as possible by the most losing position possible - we're in there, we can't leave now bullshit. We've seen US servicemen and women so disconnected from the honor of the military in this action that terrible things have been done. Kids are dying holding positions that are meaningless. The President(s) apparently could not give less of a shit because we haven't had a National address on why these kids are dying that I can remember. It's done. Fuck it. Bring everyone home. We might actually need an army sometime soon.

I agree with this in spirit.

I think OEF is winnable and sustainable and has the potential to turn Afghanistan to a point where the Afghani people will have signifigantly brighter prospects for the future. I've also found that those veterans who feel that their service was meaningful far outnumber those who think it was meaningless, and that those who have served honorably far outnumber those who have engaged in any dishonorable behavior (by their standards, not by mine or yours or the media's).

But I think it's a crying fucking shame that we've got Americans over there.

I don't think that a hundred thousand Afghanis are worth one single American life. I don't think they're worth one single American sustaining a paper cut.

I've said many times that everything that we should have done over there was completed inisde a few weeks.

08-29-2012, 10:32 PM	#32
lerobudrse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 337 Senior Member	So what? Really. So fucking what? I'm talking to a dad at my kid's karate class last night and he's a reserve guy and he probably has to go over to Afghanistan in a couple of weeks. He's leaving his real job and his real family and going over there for what? He might not come home. I'm not being a smart ass here - I really want to know what everyone thinks is going to be accomplished over there - or what they think we are accomplishing or preventing with all these folks going over there? I say this is the perfect time to realize that we are not shaping anything over there, not accomplishing anything sustainable, and it's time to get the fuck out. This has been a massive fuckup by Bush Jr that has been rationalized as much as possible by the most losing position possible - we're in there, we can't leave now bullshit. We've seen US servicemen and women so disconnected from the honor of the military in this action that terrible things have been done. Kids are dying holding positions that are meaningless. The President(s) apparently could not give less of a shit because we haven't had a National address on why these kids are dying that I can remember. It's done. Fuck it. Bring everyone home. We might actually need an army sometime soon. I agree with this in spirit. I think OEF is winnable and sustainable and has the potential to turn Afghanistan to a point where the Afghani people will have signifigantly brighter prospects for the future. I've also found that those veterans who feel that their service was meaningful far outnumber those who think it was meaningless, and that those who have served honorably far outnumber those who have engaged in any dishonorable behavior (by their standards, not by mine or yours or the media's). But I think it's a crying fucking shame that we've got Americans over there. I don't think that a hundred thousand Afghanis are worth one single American life. I don't think they're worth one single American sustaining a paper cut. I've said many times that everything that we should have done over there was completed inisde a few weeks.
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