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**SHpuntik** · 10-28-2009, 01:23 AM

You seem pretty cold-hearted. I hope this is all keyboard talk.

These perpetrators ranged in ages from 15 to 19. Do you really think that death is a fair punishment for their actions? Just pulling out the weapon and scaring them away is enough to deter the rest of the crime, why add more drama with murder?

Couple of things.

1. I'm not talking about punishment. I don't believe in capital punishment, simply because I think it's too emotional of an issue, and because of the risk of innocent people being killed.

Yes, I think they deserve to die, and that's why it should't be decided later by other people.

2. I am talking about stopping the situation immediately and permanently. I believe there is a huge difference between shooting someone dead to stop them from harming someone, and restraining them and killing them later at your convenience. One is to ensure immediate cessation of aggression, with minimal risk to whoever has chosen to resist. The other is punishment.

Yes, in that situation (and I hope it never happens) I would shoot to kill... at least until they scattered. I find no reason to risk my life (and the life of the victim) in order to preserve theirs (they could be armed themselves after all).

Fine, a pistol whip or two, crack a few skulls and knock out a couple of teeth, but murder? C'mon, these are children.

Really? For gang-rape? They aren't children... they should be locked up forever. This isn't shoplifting... it's not a "bad choice" someone makes. It's not even stabbing your spouse in a fit of jealous rage. It's a commitment to being evil.

10-28-2009, 01:23 AM	#37
SHpuntik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 608 Senior Member	You seem pretty cold-hearted. I hope this is all keyboard talk. These perpetrators ranged in ages from 15 to 19. Do you really think that death is a fair punishment for their actions? Just pulling out the weapon and scaring them away is enough to deter the rest of the crime, why add more drama with murder? Couple of things. 1. I'm not talking about punishment. I don't believe in capital punishment, simply because I think it's too emotional of an issue, and because of the risk of innocent people being killed. Yes, I think they deserve to die, and that's why it should't be decided later by other people. 2. I am talking about stopping the situation immediately and permanently. I believe there is a huge difference between shooting someone dead to stop them from harming someone, and restraining them and killing them later at your convenience. One is to ensure immediate cessation of aggression, with minimal risk to whoever has chosen to resist. The other is punishment. Yes, in that situation (and I hope it never happens) I would shoot to kill... at least until they scattered. I find no reason to risk my life (and the life of the victim) in order to preserve theirs (they could be armed themselves after all). Fine, a pistol whip or two, crack a few skulls and knock out a couple of teeth, but murder? C'mon, these are children. Really? For gang-rape? They aren't children... they should be locked up forever. This isn't shoplifting... it's not a "bad choice" someone makes. It's not even stabbing your spouse in a fit of jealous rage. It's a commitment to being evil.
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