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**favwebbb** · 08-28-2009, 06:06 PM

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What is wrong with leaf springs? The Ram does use coils yes, but it still doesn't perform like the leaf springs on the F-150. The coils might give a more comfy ride, yes, but towing went down 500lbs for one, while the F-150 actually went up recently to 11,000lbs. Plus in tests, the leafs still do better.
I am sure that a proper coil could do just as good, if not better, though the sad thing is, the Ram with the coils kind of went a step backwards compared to what they used to offer. In the comfort deparment though, they went a step forward.

Though there is nothing wrong with leaf springs. Hell, the Corvette still uses leaf springs and whips some a$$ with them as well.

Theres nothing wrong with leaf suspension for offroad, i think some people are forgetting that when you do true offroading you want a BALANCE between simplicity and technology.
Personally i disagree with those who say that a 60's Defender or 70s landcruiser are the best offroad, because the new tech does help make your life easier...but obviously you dont want something so complicated that if it breaks you have no chance of repairing it outside of a dealership.

Sure people love to claim the Range Rover is the best because they see some adverts and TV progs where its climbing up mountains in controlled environments, sure it has some great tech and is more rugged than it looks, but it wouldnt be on my list of cars to use for serious offroading...i dont think ive EVER seen one doing real offroading. Usually youll see older Range Rovers on the beaten path but never the newer ones.
You need to ask yourself in all these shows has the Range Rover ever taken damage ? No because they dont and wont show it, and one of the major factors of of a good 4x4 is how well it can keep going despite taking some damage, even the best offroad drivers make mistakes so you want you vehicle to keep going if you do make some.

08-28-2009, 06:06 PM	#85
favwebbb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 555 Senior Member	I What is wrong with leaf springs? The Ram does use coils yes, but it still doesn't perform like the leaf springs on the F-150. The coils might give a more comfy ride, yes, but towing went down 500lbs for one, while the F-150 actually went up recently to 11,000lbs. Plus in tests, the leafs still do better. I am sure that a proper coil could do just as good, if not better, though the sad thing is, the Ram with the coils kind of went a step backwards compared to what they used to offer. In the comfort deparment though, they went a step forward. Though there is nothing wrong with leaf springs. Hell, the Corvette still uses leaf springs and whips some a$$ with them as well. Theres nothing wrong with leaf suspension for offroad, i think some people are forgetting that when you do true offroading you want a BALANCE between simplicity and technology. Personally i disagree with those who say that a 60's Defender or 70s landcruiser are the best offroad, because the new tech does help make your life easier...but obviously you dont want something so complicated that if it breaks you have no chance of repairing it outside of a dealership. Sure people love to claim the Range Rover is the best because they see some adverts and TV progs where its climbing up mountains in controlled environments, sure it has some great tech and is more rugged than it looks, but it wouldnt be on my list of cars to use for serious offroading...i dont think ive EVER seen one doing real offroading. Usually youll see older Range Rovers on the beaten path but never the newer ones. You need to ask yourself in all these shows has the Range Rover ever taken damage ? No because they dont and wont show it, and one of the major factors of of a good 4x4 is how well it can keep going despite taking some damage, even the best offroad drivers make mistakes so you want you vehicle to keep going if you do make some.
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