Yeah dude, I think everyone gets your principle but it isn't going to happen so if you were to come to the US and eat at a full service restaurant and based on your current principles you would be considered a cheapskate and would receive very poor service if you were to return. I don't understand why it is so hard for you to swallow that fact that not everything works the same around the world. It is a extremely basic concept and you aren't changing the world, let alone anything, preaching your beliefs. [rofl]