DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post

**actioliGalm** · 02-07-2007, 03:48 PM

I heard it's only GSM and not 3G. Which makes this phone 100% useless for anything internet related. I don't count wireless because wireless access is hardly something easy to come by. I want to use the phone on the net wherever I am using the mobile network. [thumbdown]

If I'm wrong correct me. But apple has screwed up big time using slow old mobile tech.

No, you're right, it only supports the EDGE data network (not HSDPA or what not). However, I don't believe this to be much of a problem since 3G is only in like 60 major markets in the US right now. Most the time unless you live in and don't leave a big city you'll be on the slower EDGE network. Why make the phone thicker and have a worse battery life when A LOT of people probably will never roam into range of a 3G network. I expect it to be at least a year if not two before ATT is able to roll 3G network wide, by then we'll see a second gen. Should you wait for that one? Maybe, but then you can't use an iPhone for another year, for me I really wanted to use iPhone now and I can't blame Apple for our crappy networks in the US and a mix of standards. By the way, this is the first reply I have made that has NOT been from my iPhone, ya, you can use the internet on WiFi or not.

Are those phones really as huge as they look? They're as big as my miniXDA but without (apparently) most of the features

No way, they are so slim! I'll take pictures a little later and compare it to something but man it's so small feeling! The phone fits just right in your hand, the screen seems huge and when you slide it into your pocket you forget you even have it with you! It's really amazing how small it feels yet how big and easy it feels when you're touching the screen for the keyboard or changing setting or something.

the iPhone is a really cool integration of features, looks damn sweet, and thank god it has a killer battery life (a miracle for an iProduct!)

No removable storage, no swappable battery, forced data plans, no real buttons at all, no stylus, EDGE only...well there is a whole list of things that make it less appealing. It has the sex appeal, and slick operation no doubt.

Still I would rather have the sucessor to my phone (I have a samsung i730) the Samsung i760 (not out). Swappable batteries, memory, real buttons, stylus games.

Well maybe a gen 2 iPhone...but probably a windows mobile phone that takes the good (rips it off) but allows me the customization and user power I want.

I really don't understand this whole removable storage thing. Is eight gigs not enough to hold someone over for 24 hours or hell, maybe two or three days if you're going on a trip? Do you really want to carry two or three flash cards with you all over the place? I want just one thing to carry around, that's all, but that's just me. The battery really isn't too much of a problem for me. I was able to leave my house at 11am the other day, use EDGE and wifi for probably an hour total, have the phone not be charged all day, and spend about 3 hours and 20 minutes total talking on it before I started to charge it again at like 11pm. I think I got a 20% battery life warning just a few minutes before I started to charge it. Now I had wifi on for a good hour or two while I was on a phone call, if I had turned that off maybe I would have even done better. Again, I don't want to carry two or three batteries with me, when I travel I take my charger and when I don't, it seems to last me all day fine.

So pics of it or it didn't happen glad you got one thou enjoy!!!

I'll get pics soon, my family has been up these last few days and I've been pretty busy.

02-07-2007, 03:48 PM	#41
actioliGalm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 439 Senior Member	I heard it's only GSM and not 3G. Which makes this phone 100% useless for anything internet related. I don't count wireless because wireless access is hardly something easy to come by. I want to use the phone on the net wherever I am using the mobile network. [thumbdown] If I'm wrong correct me. But apple has screwed up big time using slow old mobile tech. No, you're right, it only supports the EDGE data network (not HSDPA or what not). However, I don't believe this to be much of a problem since 3G is only in like 60 major markets in the US right now. Most the time unless you live in and don't leave a big city you'll be on the slower EDGE network. Why make the phone thicker and have a worse battery life when A LOT of people probably will never roam into range of a 3G network. I expect it to be at least a year if not two before ATT is able to roll 3G network wide, by then we'll see a second gen. Should you wait for that one? Maybe, but then you can't use an iPhone for another year, for me I really wanted to use iPhone now and I can't blame Apple for our crappy networks in the US and a mix of standards. By the way, this is the first reply I have made that has NOT been from my iPhone, ya, you can use the internet on WiFi or not. Are those phones really as huge as they look? They're as big as my miniXDA but without (apparently) most of the features No way, they are so slim! I'll take pictures a little later and compare it to something but man it's so small feeling! The phone fits just right in your hand, the screen seems huge and when you slide it into your pocket you forget you even have it with you! It's really amazing how small it feels yet how big and easy it feels when you're touching the screen for the keyboard or changing setting or something. the iPhone is a really cool integration of features, looks damn sweet, and thank god it has a killer battery life (a miracle for an iProduct!) No removable storage, no swappable battery, forced data plans, no real buttons at all, no stylus, EDGE only...well there is a whole list of things that make it less appealing. It has the sex appeal, and slick operation no doubt. Still I would rather have the sucessor to my phone (I have a samsung i730) the Samsung i760 (not out). Swappable batteries, memory, real buttons, stylus games. Well maybe a gen 2 iPhone...but probably a windows mobile phone that takes the good (rips it off) but allows me the customization and user power I want. I really don't understand this whole removable storage thing. Is eight gigs not enough to hold someone over for 24 hours or hell, maybe two or three days if you're going on a trip? Do you really want to carry two or three flash cards with you all over the place? I want just one thing to carry around, that's all, but that's just me. The battery really isn't too much of a problem for me. I was able to leave my house at 11am the other day, use EDGE and wifi for probably an hour total, have the phone not be charged all day, and spend about 3 hours and 20 minutes total talking on it before I started to charge it again at like 11pm. I think I got a 20% battery life warning just a few minutes before I started to charge it. Now I had wifi on for a good hour or two while I was on a phone call, if I had turned that off maybe I would have even done better. Again, I don't want to carry two or three batteries with me, when I travel I take my charger and when I don't, it seems to last me all day fine. So pics of it or it didn't happen glad you got one thou enjoy!!! I'll get pics soon, my family has been up these last few days and I've been pretty busy.
	Quote