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**Andrew1978** · 07-09-2012, 11:03 PM

No. Have four witnesses been present in all these cases?

Can you show that this hasn't been the case?

In addition to this Saudi openly practices riba with its central bank a crime that is similar to fornicating with ones own mother in the haram accroding to a hadith. So this is a case of a openly sinful government applying the laws of Allah

unevenly. Weak people have the law apply on them and powerful people do not. This is not Islam. This is not applicable to this. The government has every right to allow the carrying out of hudood punishments, even if the government is corrupt. The verdict is decided by judges (qadhis) anyway. If anything, the Saudi government has gotten people OUT of their sentences by bowing down to Western pressure.

A government that is perfect and free of sin is not a prerequisite for any hukum of shari'ah. The king could be swimming in pools of wine and still there would be no issue with having the hudood punishments in place.

07-09-2012, 11:03 PM	#12
Andrew1978 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 565 Senior Member	No. Have four witnesses been present in all these cases? Can you show that this hasn't been the case? In addition to this Saudi openly practices riba with its central bank a crime that is similar to fornicating with ones own mother in the haram accroding to a hadith. So this is a case of a openly sinful government applying the laws of Allah unevenly. Weak people have the law apply on them and powerful people do not. This is not Islam. This is not applicable to this. The government has every right to allow the carrying out of hudood punishments, even if the government is corrupt. The verdict is decided by judges (qadhis) anyway. If anything, the Saudi government has gotten people OUT of their sentences by bowing down to Western pressure. A government that is perfect and free of sin is not a prerequisite for any hukum of shari'ah. The king could be swimming in pools of wine and still there would be no issue with having the hudood punishments in place.
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