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**Imiweevierm** · 07-10-2012, 01:00 PM

I think what he is referring to is the issue of enthusiasm for it brother. Prophet (saws) obviously wanted to dissuade people from coming forwards to own up for it if they did not have too and on more than one occasion and told them to go away and repent and seek Allah forgiveness and beyond that he tried to find excuses for them where possible.

But nowadays it is often seemingly done without proper evidence in some places, is sometimes applied to cases that do not meet the criteria for it and in some places it is used for the poor but not for the rich and influential (this occurred with the Jews before too) or it is used for resident workers but not usually for citizens (as in some Gulf states) etc.

people have to be pretty blatant in their zina to allow four witnesses to spot it. From this a lot of learned people are telling us that Rajm is primarily a deterrent.

This is true. In some countries this penalty is carried out unjustly, and many innocent people die.

Allah Most Merciful has set the criteria for rajm to be so strict that it should very rarely be carried out. Unfortunately, people dont care about the rules anymore and sentence people to rajm here and there without even a proper court case.

07-10-2012, 01:00 PM	#25
Imiweevierm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 670 Senior Member	I think what he is referring to is the issue of enthusiasm for it brother. Prophet (saws) obviously wanted to dissuade people from coming forwards to own up for it if they did not have too and on more than one occasion and told them to go away and repent and seek Allah forgiveness and beyond that he tried to find excuses for them where possible. But nowadays it is often seemingly done without proper evidence in some places, is sometimes applied to cases that do not meet the criteria for it and in some places it is used for the poor but not for the rich and influential (this occurred with the Jews before too) or it is used for resident workers but not usually for citizens (as in some Gulf states) etc. people have to be pretty blatant in their zina to allow four witnesses to spot it. From this a lot of learned people are telling us that Rajm is primarily a deterrent. This is true. In some countries this penalty is carried out unjustly, and many innocent people die. Allah Most Merciful has set the criteria for rajm to be so strict that it should very rarely be carried out. Unfortunately, people dont care about the rules anymore and sentence people to rajm here and there without even a proper court case.
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