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**Karensmith** · 07-11-2012, 03:13 AM

But nowadays it is often seemingly done without proper evidence in some places,

please provide an example along with the procedure the court followed in coming to the conclusion that the evidence was 'proper'

is sometimes applied to cases that do not meet the criteria for it

again kindly quote an example of a court procedure where the criteria was not met.

and in some places it is used for the poor but not for the rich and influential (this occurred with the Jews before too) or it is used for resident workers but not usually for citizens (as in some Gulf states) etc.

some proof again please.
then again, didnt rasulAllah (SAW) ordered rajm without distinction of wealth while jews did not do that?
so how does it show that rajm should not be carried out?
people misuse the blasphemy law in pakistan. yet mufti naeem (a very prominent mufti) declared that the process to establish blasphemy be better handled NOT that blasphemy should not be carried out and is only a 'deterrent'.

people have to be pretty blatant in their zina to allow four witnesses to spot it. From this a lot of learned people are telling us that Rajm is primarily a deterrent.

and who are these learned people?

07-11-2012, 03:13 AM	#33
Karensmith Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 573 Senior Member	But nowadays it is often seemingly done without proper evidence in some places, please provide an example along with the procedure the court followed in coming to the conclusion that the evidence was 'proper' is sometimes applied to cases that do not meet the criteria for it again kindly quote an example of a court procedure where the criteria was not met. and in some places it is used for the poor but not for the rich and influential (this occurred with the Jews before too) or it is used for resident workers but not usually for citizens (as in some Gulf states) etc. some proof again please. then again, didnt rasulAllah (SAW) ordered rajm without distinction of wealth while jews did not do that? so how does it show that rajm should not be carried out? people misuse the blasphemy law in pakistan. yet mufti naeem (a very prominent mufti) declared that the process to establish blasphemy be better handled NOT that blasphemy should not be carried out and is only a 'deterrent'. people have to be pretty blatant in their zina to allow four witnesses to spot it. From this a lot of learned people are telling us that Rajm is primarily a deterrent. and who are these learned people?
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