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**Junrlaeh** · 07-07-2012, 02:07 AM

Dates of birth are only important in modern times because we are required to have birth certificates etc. by the state. people in the past did not know their exact date of birth they lived by the seasons, there were no clocks times were give approximately. I am just trying to say that the age issue does not have to be something that causes people to become argumentative there might be room fro disagreement. I have no actual proof for this assertion...My grand father did not know his birth date, he was born in India in the early 1900, when required to fill in forms by the British he simply made a date up. Now I know the Arabs had good memories and were keen on memorizing lineage, so this may not be applicable to them, but they definitely did not write things down and keep records it was a oral tradition. I am not sure if dates of birth and such like were as important to the ancients as they are to us today. The age of Aisha (RA) may well be correctly worked out by scholars in other ways, I am no expert, I am just saying there might be room for legitimate difference of opinion.

I have already stated in the past on this message board that I disagree with Imran Husseins wierd interpretations of hadith. So I do not really have a bias towards him. I just think people should be given the benefit of the doubt. The word Terrorist means what? It can mean that these people are Terrorists because they are going up against a tyrant and creating conflict.

BTW did you know about this group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianc...outh_Movements

If not have a read and see how Washigton is attempting to ferment revolution across the Islamic world.

Yeah.., Aisha (RA) decided to narrate a hadith where she got her own age wrong... OK. And I would like to know the basis for your claim that people in the past did not know their own ages or birth dates since CLEARLY many arabs, especially of lineage) kept records of such things and not only the arabs, but people of other civilisations too

And Imran Hosein did not claim that perhaps she got her age wrong, but he said the hadith has to be FABRICATED purely because he did not like what the hadith stated. Oh, and Aisha's age is proven to be 9 in more ways than one... this hadith regarding her age(found in Bukhari, Muslim, etc) is not the only way we know she was 9 at the time of consummation

With regards to Jihad against the syrian regime, he called those who fight against Assad as terrorists. He did not say 'we shouldn't fight' or anything like that (although that is certainly implied) but he decided to call these people who are defending their own children, their own mothers and sisters as 'terrorists'. He should bring forth his proof if he does not want to be known as someone who slanders

07-07-2012, 02:07 AM	#28
Junrlaeh Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 568 Senior Member	Dates of birth are only important in modern times because we are required to have birth certificates etc. by the state. people in the past did not know their exact date of birth they lived by the seasons, there were no clocks times were give approximately. I am just trying to say that the age issue does not have to be something that causes people to become argumentative there might be room fro disagreement. I have no actual proof for this assertion...My grand father did not know his birth date, he was born in India in the early 1900, when required to fill in forms by the British he simply made a date up. Now I know the Arabs had good memories and were keen on memorizing lineage, so this may not be applicable to them, but they definitely did not write things down and keep records it was a oral tradition. I am not sure if dates of birth and such like were as important to the ancients as they are to us today. The age of Aisha (RA) may well be correctly worked out by scholars in other ways, I am no expert, I am just saying there might be room for legitimate difference of opinion. I have already stated in the past on this message board that I disagree with Imran Husseins wierd interpretations of hadith. So I do not really have a bias towards him. I just think people should be given the benefit of the doubt. The word Terrorist means what? It can mean that these people are Terrorists because they are going up against a tyrant and creating conflict. BTW did you know about this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianc...outh_Movements If not have a read and see how Washigton is attempting to ferment revolution across the Islamic world. Yeah.., Aisha (RA) decided to narrate a hadith where she got her own age wrong... OK. And I would like to know the basis for your claim that people in the past did not know their own ages or birth dates since CLEARLY many arabs, especially of lineage) kept records of such things and not only the arabs, but people of other civilisations too And Imran Hosein did not claim that perhaps she got her age wrong, but he said the hadith has to be FABRICATED purely because he did not like what the hadith stated. Oh, and Aisha's age is proven to be 9 in more ways than one... this hadith regarding her age(found in Bukhari, Muslim, etc) is not the only way we know she was 9 at the time of consummation With regards to Jihad against the syrian regime, he called those who fight against Assad as terrorists. He did not say 'we shouldn't fight' or anything like that (although that is certainly implied) but he decided to call these people who are defending their own children, their own mothers and sisters as 'terrorists'. He should bring forth his proof if he does not want to be known as someone who slanders
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