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**JanetMorris** · 06-16-2012, 01:05 AM

No to sidetrack the issue, but the above can also be applied to the tableeghis e.g the behaviour of the guard in his 'sermonising' and particularly about dawah to existing Muslims.

out of the four traits only (c) loosely applies to TJ. and also DI...
they both are a class apart from salafi dawah. i dont agree with the colonel on one thing. dawah should also be given to muslims.

Brothers,

I never said Dawah can't be given to Muslims as it is a commandment of Allah (SWT) in the Qur'aan. Tableeghi Jamaat and Salafees are poles apart in terms of methodology while only similar superficially.

They both give Dawah to Muslims and encourage them to adopt FULL DEEN and thats just where the similarity ends:

Salafees then tell you that you MUST ADOPT our approach to Aqeedah and Fiqh while Tableeghi Jamaat simply refers people to Scholars of their choice.
The modern Salaffiyah which nows says, "We don't have a problem with following Madhabs" then dictates actually you may be a Hanafi/Shaf'ae/Maliki/Hanbali but your Taqleed must also follow the principles and dictates set down by us. Al-Maghrib is a fine example of telling Hanafees who to follow Hanafi Madhab.

In the history of Islam there have been numerous calls for reform and Dawah BUT NONE to actually dictate and control the lives of millions of Muslims to the ultimate degree, thats what its about i.e. control because the Saudi regime needs SALAFIYYAH to control lives so there is no revolt against them.

Tableeghi Jamaat has no such methodology or tactic [U]and don't tell people to suck eggs.

Again, I don't have any problems with Salafees (that's their approach and so be it) but a vast majority of Muslims (laymen and Ulamah) don't understand the virulent form of Salafiyyah and what it is actually about! Its political in nature.

P.S: Sorry for the short incoherent response, more on it later.

06-16-2012, 01:05 AM	#25
JanetMorris Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	No to sidetrack the issue, but the above can also be applied to the tableeghis e.g the behaviour of the guard in his 'sermonising' and particularly about dawah to existing Muslims. out of the four traits only (c) loosely applies to TJ. and also DI... they both are a class apart from salafi dawah. i dont agree with the colonel on one thing. dawah should also be given to muslims. Brothers, I never said Dawah can't be given to Muslims as it is a commandment of Allah (SWT) in the Qur'aan. Tableeghi Jamaat and Salafees are poles apart in terms of methodology while only similar superficially. They both give Dawah to Muslims and encourage them to adopt FULL DEEN and thats just where the similarity ends: Salafees then tell you that you MUST ADOPT our approach to Aqeedah and Fiqh while Tableeghi Jamaat simply refers people to Scholars of their choice. The modern Salaffiyah which nows says, "We don't have a problem with following Madhabs" then dictates actually you may be a Hanafi/Shaf'ae/Maliki/Hanbali but your Taqleed must also follow the principles and dictates set down by us. Al-Maghrib is a fine example of telling Hanafees who to follow Hanafi Madhab. In the history of Islam there have been numerous calls for reform and Dawah BUT NONE to actually dictate and control the lives of millions of Muslims to the ultimate degree, thats what its about i.e. control because the Saudi regime needs SALAFIYYAH to control lives so there is no revolt against them. Tableeghi Jamaat has no such methodology or tactic [U]and don't tell people to suck eggs. Again, I don't have any problems with Salafees (that's their approach and so be it) but a vast majority of Muslims (laymen and Ulamah) don't understand the virulent form of Salafiyyah and what it is actually about! Its political in nature. P.S: Sorry for the short incoherent response, more on it later.
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