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**Ehlgamxf** · 07-07-2012, 12:59 PM

Muslim is a person who submits to Allah (swt).

Now there are two types of Muslims.

1 - Those who submit to Allah (swt) unwillingly and reluctantly. Such Muslims are actually Kafireen. All Kafirs submits to Allah (swt) but unwillingly. Even Satan cannot go against the plans of Allah (swt), Satan has to submit to the plans of Allah (swt).

2 - Those who submits to Allah (swt) willingly and happily. Such Muslims are actually Momineen.

So according to 1 and 2. There is no such thing as a submitting muslim who is not a momineen ?
So by definition ALL people who say shahadah are momineen ?

You need a Number 3 !

07-07-2012, 12:59 PM	#16
Ehlgamxf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Muslim is a person who submits to Allah (swt). Now there are two types of Muslims. 1 - Those who submit to Allah (swt) unwillingly and reluctantly. Such Muslims are actually Kafireen. All Kafirs submits to Allah (swt) but unwillingly. Even Satan cannot go against the plans of Allah (swt), Satan has to submit to the plans of Allah (swt). 2 - Those who submits to Allah (swt) willingly and happily. Such Muslims are actually Momineen. So according to 1 and 2. There is no such thing as a submitting muslim who is not a momineen ? So by definition ALL people who say shahadah are momineen ? You need a Number 3 !
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