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**Patamuta** · 07-03-2012, 06:50 PM

wa alaykum salaam

ok brother well there are plenty of people including well respected "shaikhs" who have very deviant beliefs who call themselves sufi. What shall I call these group if I shouldnt call them sufis?

Will you give the same courtesy to salafis?

A lot of charlatans call themselves Sufi, that is true, but a lot of charlatans don't call themselves Sufi but are revered as shuyookh and propose weird beliefs. Even Salafis do that (Usama Hasan being a prime example) but you don't see many of us claiming that he is any model Salafi or represents Salafi beliefs. Do you think it is fair for us to say that Usama Hasan's beliefs about evolution are "extreme [salafi] beliefs"?

And I don't say all Salafis are bad nor do I attribute the beliefs or actions committed by a minority of Salafis to Salafism at large.

07-03-2012, 06:50 PM	#15
Patamuta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	wa alaykum salaam ok brother well there are plenty of people including well respected "shaikhs" who have very deviant beliefs who call themselves sufi. What shall I call these group if I shouldnt call them sufis? Will you give the same courtesy to salafis? A lot of charlatans call themselves Sufi, that is true, but a lot of charlatans don't call themselves Sufi but are revered as shuyookh and propose weird beliefs. Even Salafis do that (Usama Hasan being a prime example) but you don't see many of us claiming that he is any model Salafi or represents Salafi beliefs. Do you think it is fair for us to say that Usama Hasan's beliefs about evolution are "extreme [salafi] beliefs"? And I don't say all Salafis are bad nor do I attribute the beliefs or actions committed by a minority of Salafis to Salafism at large.
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