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**teodaschwartia** · 02-21-2008, 01:37 AM

sidi Salman

Though at a level I get what you are saying, but I feel your statements (eventhough praising tabligh) are lowering a bit too much in its involvement in raising the levels of Wilaya in the true sense of sufiyaa. Tablighi work if done properly has many qualities of mashq and mujahada found in the traditional sufi teachings. If sincerety is put into actions, then it has the potential of raising one to high levels ... however it may apparently seem untraditional..

But alas the masses do not even have the maqsad of tazkiyatun Nafs and Ma'rifa...

BTE what do you mean the maqsid is is Allah. can you please explain this true goal...Jazak Allah

salamu `alaykum

Imam Junayd al-Baghdadi stated that the goal is for one to be in the state in which he was in at the very beginning, before creation existed. Shaykh Nuh explained this by quoting the hadith of Bukhari that stated, "Allah was and there was nothing besides him."

As for me explaining it, as Shaykh Nuh says, "If they were my words, I would have, but they are not."

After this comes the stage of baqa' - and Allah Knows Best the reality of it.

Remember, sidi, that tasawwuf and its true secret is naql min al-sirr ila al-sirr, from shaykh to the murid. All these acts of worship, mujahada, the adhkar, are simply necessary means to the goal.

Wasalam
Salman

02-21-2008, 01:37 AM	#19
teodaschwartia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	sidi Salman Though at a level I get what you are saying, but I feel your statements (eventhough praising tabligh) are lowering a bit too much in its involvement in raising the levels of Wilaya in the true sense of sufiyaa. Tablighi work if done properly has many qualities of mashq and mujahada found in the traditional sufi teachings. If sincerety is put into actions, then it has the potential of raising one to high levels ... however it may apparently seem untraditional.. But alas the masses do not even have the maqsad of tazkiyatun Nafs and Ma'rifa... BTE what do you mean the maqsid is is Allah. can you please explain this true goal...Jazak Allah salamu `alaykum Imam Junayd al-Baghdadi stated that the goal is for one to be in the state in which he was in at the very beginning, before creation existed. Shaykh Nuh explained this by quoting the hadith of Bukhari that stated, "Allah was and there was nothing besides him." As for me explaining it, as Shaykh Nuh says, "If they were my words, I would have, but they are not." After this comes the stage of baqa' - and Allah Knows Best the reality of it. Remember, sidi, that tasawwuf and its true secret is naql min al-sirr ila al-sirr, from shaykh to the murid. All these acts of worship, mujahada, the adhkar, are simply necessary means to the goal. Wasalam Salman
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