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**teodaschwartia** · 02-21-2008, 11:43 AM

sidi

Your very first day with your sheikh.. did he teach you about baqaa or did he teach you about Ikhlaas in niyah?

salamu `alaykum

Our lessons are different, though connected, to the mudhakara sessions the shaykh gives.

The lessons concentrate on actions and getting rid of evil traits. For example, lesson one will be to pray 40 days without missing a single prayer out of its time, and to not get angry (more details to this). Lesson two is regarding the sins of the tongue, and so forth.

The mudhakara sessions though are very technical. They go into details about the reality of tasawwuf, we read from traditional texts of people such as Shaykh Alawi, Ibn Ata'illah, the Lata'if al-Minan, and so forth. You will hear alot of "Junayd said" and "Abu Madyan said" and so forth. You will hear much of the Sufi terminology of fana' wa'l baqa' wa'l tawajjud wa'l wajd and so forth. This is not for a particular class within the tariqa, these are general mudhakara lessons of the shaykh. This is not done to make one feel "proud" and what not. This is to simply embed the goal into our hearts, and to understand the path and the haqiqat of the knower. It is to allow us to know what is the goal and what is the means.

Ofcourse, there are other simpler materials, such as Introduction to Sufism, its place in Islam, and so forth.

I will reply in detail.. but ma'khuz is you are looking at the Mubtadi of the field and judging the field by him.. You should look at the Asl in Tablighi Jamaat and not what the general person says or does. I did not mean the beginner, sidi. I mean the general populace who are *regular* and *active* in tabligh activities.

Wasalam
Salman

02-21-2008, 11:43 AM	#35
teodaschwartia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	sidi Your very first day with your sheikh.. did he teach you about baqaa or did he teach you about Ikhlaas in niyah? salamu `alaykum Our lessons are different, though connected, to the mudhakara sessions the shaykh gives. The lessons concentrate on actions and getting rid of evil traits. For example, lesson one will be to pray 40 days without missing a single prayer out of its time, and to not get angry (more details to this). Lesson two is regarding the sins of the tongue, and so forth. The mudhakara sessions though are very technical. They go into details about the reality of tasawwuf, we read from traditional texts of people such as Shaykh Alawi, Ibn Ata'illah, the Lata'if al-Minan, and so forth. You will hear alot of "Junayd said" and "Abu Madyan said" and so forth. You will hear much of the Sufi terminology of fana' wa'l baqa' wa'l tawajjud wa'l wajd and so forth. This is not for a particular class within the tariqa, these are general mudhakara lessons of the shaykh. This is not done to make one feel "proud" and what not. This is to simply embed the goal into our hearts, and to understand the path and the haqiqat of the knower. It is to allow us to know what is the goal and what is the means. Ofcourse, there are other simpler materials, such as Introduction to Sufism, its place in Islam, and so forth. I will reply in detail.. but ma'khuz is you are looking at the Mubtadi of the field and judging the field by him.. You should look at the Asl in Tablighi Jamaat and not what the general person says or does. I did not mean the beginner, sidi. I mean the general populace who are regular and active in tabligh activities. Wasalam Salman
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