If you look up Max Keiser, Ron Paul, or Alex Jones, then you will find that they basically are saying the same thing (that the West isnt capitalist). Capitalism in its "current form", isnt really capitalism. Once again, as i said: look up on Max Keiser and Ron Paul. This is why i dont debate with three groups of people on economics and governance: neocons, liberals, and muslims. Because most people are too attached to false paradigms, that you dont want to open your mind, and see the "illusion" (as u righly said) The kaffir doesnt want to know what is Sharia, and the neocon/muslim/liberal doesnt want to know what is REAL capitalism. Like muslims say "if you want to learn Islam, read the scripture, not what OTHER muslims do". I ask muslims to do the same, with regards to economics.