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**GalasaKoll** · 07-03-2012, 10:31 AM

Capitalism is a mirage - a lie, which the West shows to gullible developing countries to have them following like childrens in the pide-pipper story.

OK, i will assume that 'capitalism' is all wrong. Although it kind of reminds me of the debate over gay-marriage in the West, and whats the difference over "marriage" and "civil union".

But assuming that capitalism is all wrong, is there anything in MY post that you also disagree with. The idea of consumer-economy, free-trade (with no tarrifs), and no 'welfare-state' (keeping taxes low)? i also believe in "gun-rights" (our Rasul encouraged archery and carried a blade).

If the only dispute is me saying "riba" is not an integral part of capitalism, and you saying it is. Then will you also say that "darwins theory" is also an integral part of History/Biology (hence, biology/history is haram)?? The principles of capitalism or whatever you want to call it, dont state Interest as some sort of necessity. From online, you can see the definition as: "Capitalism is an economic system that is based on private ownership of the means of production and the creation of goods or services for profit".

From the above line, which aspect will you call Haram? Because i couldnt find any. Private ownership is something protected under Islam, and so is the Creation of goods/services for Profit. If one non-integral PART is haram (be it "evolution" or "riba"), that doesnt mean the whole is Haram. An islamic economic system can still be considered "capitalist" simply because it complies with both Private-ownership and For-Profit agenda. Banning interest doesnt change that. Just as we can also respect biology/history without including "darwinism".

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GalasaKoll Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	Capitalism is a mirage - a lie, which the West shows to gullible developing countries to have them following like childrens in the pide-pipper story. OK, i will assume that 'capitalism' is all wrong. Although it kind of reminds me of the debate over gay-marriage in the West, and whats the difference over "marriage" and "civil union". But assuming that capitalism is all wrong, is there anything in MY post that you also disagree with. The idea of consumer-economy, free-trade (with no tarrifs), and no 'welfare-state' (keeping taxes low)? i also believe in "gun-rights" (our Rasul encouraged archery and carried a blade). If the only dispute is me saying "riba" is not an integral part of capitalism, and you saying it is. Then will you also say that "darwins theory" is also an integral part of History/Biology (hence, biology/history is haram)?? The principles of capitalism or whatever you want to call it, dont state Interest as some sort of necessity. From online, you can see the definition as: "Capitalism is an economic system that is based on private ownership of the means of production and the creation of goods or services for profit". From the above line, which aspect will you call Haram? Because i couldnt find any. Private ownership is something protected under Islam, and so is the Creation of goods/services for Profit. If one non-integral PART is haram (be it "evolution" or "riba"), that doesnt mean the whole is Haram. An islamic economic system can still be considered "capitalist" simply because it complies with both Private-ownership and For-Profit agenda. Banning interest doesnt change that. Just as we can also respect biology/history without including "darwinism".
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