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**Theateetetuig** · 06-22-2012, 02:12 AM

the claim taht they have made no advancements is aboslutely nonsense firstly. Saudi has come leaps and bounds in development

The racism there is no different than the racism in pakistan or somalia so why highlight saudi specifically? Same applies regarding poverty. I have friends in Uni who are from saudi and the rulers are loved and the accusations thrown against saudi is certainly not in agreement with what my many friends from the khaleej have said. Most of them believe its propaganda against saudi and based on the fanatasism ive seen against saudi dispite teh rest of teh ummah being much worse, makes me think these attacks on saudi are only from the shaytaan, especially when the salafi AND deobandi ulema do not attack the saudi regime at all and tehse seem to be teh most reliable of the ummah in this day and age

Look brother, I'm not saying other countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh aren't horrible. They are. And there are plenty of threads on here criticizing them. I'm just disputing your claim that Saudi is much better than those countries in terms of social issues. Saudi has an unemployment rate above 10%. Poverty is a huge problem in Saudi, and the government doesn't even permit reporting on poverty levels. With the vast amount of wealth and relatively small population they have, why should any Saudi citizen live in poverty? The fact that your friends are able to come to the UK to study tells me that they are well-off enough that these issues don't affect them. Also, the Saudis are very reliant on foreigners for their tech and infrastructure.

I also didn't say they haven't made progress, just saying that in comparison to the vast amount of wealth they have which they didn't have to work for, their progress is nowhere near where it should be. Where are the world-class research institutions, medical centers, etc? Funding shouldn't be an issue. You mentioned Qatar; at least they are developing their education system. They have brought in talent from major US universities like Cornell and Carnegie Mellon. The only thing Saudi imports from the US are out-of-date military hardware and American troops.

As for the ulema not criticizing them, it's simply not true, and even if it were, the ulama are not infallible. I am not criticizing the Saudis on religious issues here, but on social, economic, and political ones.

06-22-2012, 02:12 AM	#40
Theateetetuig Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 342 Senior Member	the claim taht they have made no advancements is aboslutely nonsense firstly. Saudi has come leaps and bounds in development The racism there is no different than the racism in pakistan or somalia so why highlight saudi specifically? Same applies regarding poverty. I have friends in Uni who are from saudi and the rulers are loved and the accusations thrown against saudi is certainly not in agreement with what my many friends from the khaleej have said. Most of them believe its propaganda against saudi and based on the fanatasism ive seen against saudi dispite teh rest of teh ummah being much worse, makes me think these attacks on saudi are only from the shaytaan, especially when the salafi AND deobandi ulema do not attack the saudi regime at all and tehse seem to be teh most reliable of the ummah in this day and age Look brother, I'm not saying other countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh aren't horrible. They are. And there are plenty of threads on here criticizing them. I'm just disputing your claim that Saudi is much better than those countries in terms of social issues. Saudi has an unemployment rate above 10%. Poverty is a huge problem in Saudi, and the government doesn't even permit reporting on poverty levels. With the vast amount of wealth and relatively small population they have, why should any Saudi citizen live in poverty? The fact that your friends are able to come to the UK to study tells me that they are well-off enough that these issues don't affect them. Also, the Saudis are very reliant on foreigners for their tech and infrastructure. I also didn't say they haven't made progress, just saying that in comparison to the vast amount of wealth they have which they didn't have to work for, their progress is nowhere near where it should be. Where are the world-class research institutions, medical centers, etc? Funding shouldn't be an issue. You mentioned Qatar; at least they are developing their education system. They have brought in talent from major US universities like Cornell and Carnegie Mellon. The only thing Saudi imports from the US are out-of-date military hardware and American troops. As for the ulema not criticizing them, it's simply not true, and even if it were, the ulama are not infallible. I am not criticizing the Saudis on religious issues here, but on social, economic, and political ones.
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