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**newspetty** · 02-25-2011, 08:20 PM

Dr Ati - Did you know some people believe Imam Bukhari and Ibn al Madini are higher in terms of authority than Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal ra? Ibn al Madini is not just anybody.

So when Ibn al Madini praises Imam Shaybani, that holds more weight than any criticism from any hanbali. Also the fact that Imam Bukhari praises Ibn al Madini more than he praised anyone means that Ibn al Madini is mor than reliable, he is a senior authority on deen. Imam Bukhari is the author of the most saheeh book after the Quran. So suddenly his word doesnt count for anything?

Do not forget - this is praise from one of the highest ranking muhadith to have graced this earth - and what are we discussing here?? imam shaybani's reliability in hadith.

If i knew Arabic i would translate the sentence Imam Bukhari uses to describe Ibn al Madini. He hasnt used any sentence in any book to praise anyone more highly than what he used for Ibn al Madini.

Got any common sense? Its typical hanafi hide and seek which you are doing. Imam Bukhari Ra came after Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani and he did not praise him at all so this fairy tale that Imam Bukhari praised Mr B and Mr B then praised Mohamad Bin hassan Al shaibani is meaningless.Give a direct proof of praise instead. 15 muhaditheens have deemed Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani to be Da'ef.The list included , Imam shafi ra , Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal ra , Imam Darqutni ra , Imam Yahya bin Mueen ra , Imam Nisai ra etc. How can u fight his case after the Jamhoor muhaditheen have deemed Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani to be daeef? I hope u shall be gathering some more irrelevant praise now.
All those interested in the arguments of Mohamad bin hassan Al shaibani reliabilty can watch the debate which took place between hanafis and Ahli Hadiths. Here is the link,plz follow it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE_qB6Rp2Yg

02-25-2011, 08:20 PM	#26
newspetty Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 501 Senior Member	Dr Ati - Did you know some people believe Imam Bukhari and Ibn al Madini are higher in terms of authority than Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal ra? Ibn al Madini is not just anybody. So when Ibn al Madini praises Imam Shaybani, that holds more weight than any criticism from any hanbali. Also the fact that Imam Bukhari praises Ibn al Madini more than he praised anyone means that Ibn al Madini is mor than reliable, he is a senior authority on deen. Imam Bukhari is the author of the most saheeh book after the Quran. So suddenly his word doesnt count for anything? Do not forget - this is praise from one of the highest ranking muhadith to have graced this earth - and what are we discussing here?? imam shaybani's reliability in hadith. If i knew Arabic i would translate the sentence Imam Bukhari uses to describe Ibn al Madini. He hasnt used any sentence in any book to praise anyone more highly than what he used for Ibn al Madini. Got any common sense? Its typical hanafi hide and seek which you are doing. Imam Bukhari Ra came after Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani and he did not praise him at all so this fairy tale that Imam Bukhari praised Mr B and Mr B then praised Mohamad Bin hassan Al shaibani is meaningless.Give a direct proof of praise instead. 15 muhaditheens have deemed Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani to be Da'ef.The list included , Imam shafi ra , Imam Ahmed Ibn Hanbal ra , Imam Darqutni ra , Imam Yahya bin Mueen ra , Imam Nisai ra etc. How can u fight his case after the Jamhoor muhaditheen have deemed Mohamad Bin Hassan Al shaibani to be daeef? I hope u shall be gathering some more irrelevant praise now. All those interested in the arguments of Mohamad bin hassan Al shaibani reliabilty can watch the debate which took place between hanafis and Ahli Hadiths. Here is the link,plz follow it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE_qB6Rp2Yg
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