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**MaraReenece** · 06-30-2012, 07:47 PM

With all due respect to you brother, are you sure you should be taking that many cues from Abdul-Qadir as-Sufi? He is a strikingly ignorant man who should not be taken as a Shaykh, despite the value of certain aspects of his political analysis and certain economic ideas. I ask because everyone who reads what he says ends up writing these exact things.

It's funny how often he promotes this odd false dichotomy (dress codes and economics) due to his hatred of the niqaab.

So Muslims are not puritans liberal on riba and very strict on clothing? Should we not be more strict against riba because it is more destructive? When the bankers implemented their system of slavery they needed to give the slaves some freedoms an outlet, so they allowed them to gratify their sexual desires and told them they could do whatever they liked as long as they were consenting adults. If they did not do this their economic slavery would have been obvious and unbearable. Puritans tend to accept the bankers system, they are impotent in fighting the economic slavery so instead they assert their power in the realm of controlling the dress codes. How many wahabis/salafis etc. critique riba and bring any alternatives to it? In fact they shoot the messenger and call him ignorant...I think brothers and sisters must examine themselves carefully to see why they might be like this. Did Allah

not criticise Riba very stongly is it not one of the kabira crimes and widespread? Why are puritan minded Muslims not prioritising this crime and trying to get rid of it? Men who are powerful would get together and action a change forthwith, they would not be focused on minor issues regarding clothing, or wastage of money at weddings.

06-30-2012, 07:47 PM	#3
MaraReenece Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	With all due respect to you brother, are you sure you should be taking that many cues from Abdul-Qadir as-Sufi? He is a strikingly ignorant man who should not be taken as a Shaykh, despite the value of certain aspects of his political analysis and certain economic ideas. I ask because everyone who reads what he says ends up writing these exact things. It's funny how often he promotes this odd false dichotomy (dress codes and economics) due to his hatred of the niqaab. So Muslims are not puritans liberal on riba and very strict on clothing? Should we not be more strict against riba because it is more destructive? When the bankers implemented their system of slavery they needed to give the slaves some freedoms an outlet, so they allowed them to gratify their sexual desires and told them they could do whatever they liked as long as they were consenting adults. If they did not do this their economic slavery would have been obvious and unbearable. Puritans tend to accept the bankers system, they are impotent in fighting the economic slavery so instead they assert their power in the realm of controlling the dress codes. How many wahabis/salafis etc. critique riba and bring any alternatives to it? In fact they shoot the messenger and call him ignorant...I think brothers and sisters must examine themselves carefully to see why they might be like this. Did Allah not criticise Riba very stongly is it not one of the kabira crimes and widespread? Why are puritan minded Muslims not prioritising this crime and trying to get rid of it? Men who are powerful would get together and action a change forthwith, they would not be focused on minor issues regarding clothing, or wastage of money at weddings.
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