no they are not the same!! They have some commonalities but different! i have ikihwani friends and found the sincere amoung them actively seek local scholars advise and guidance - mainly deos! The JI are modernist and feel scholars are not needed unless they are in politics!! They equate islam with socialism,marxism. I am not saying be apathetic but rather increase the level of godliness (no matter what ever polticial orientation) by doing activities that brings people together without labelling others as corrupt. I will always oppose them and will oppose anyone who speaks aginist scholarly body. The shaitun hides in different guise. I dislike them more then lamadhabist! Come to think of it they are bedbuddies. Feed off one another!! Imam Abdasmad Clark and Shaikh Abdul Qadir as Sufi describes them well! Superfical unity means nothing! Do you think anyone who disrepects scholars have any respect for honour and life - religion is a tool to be used!! Don't be so naieve brother. I rmember this IFE elder telling a scholar to shut up when he tried to explain something!! Also forcing out a scholar from masjed becasue they felt his message is not all about politics. I HATE THESE STREET THUGS in religous garb! Once I was seleted to be a mutuwallis and they (IFE future leader) felt threten and said will be the cause of fitnah and fasad!! They systamatically removed all the neutral pakistnai members and placed their won relatives and party clique!! the masjed wasn't even set up by them!! This is how they work!! They have upset a lot of arab ikhwani members in the community by their underhanded tactics. Now I make a point in attacking them. They think by organisng some EID salat in park makes them more religious- in an attampt to fool the mass!! They do little work but claims they do a lot!! their nice posters are nothing but marketing ploy to generate funds.