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**Precturge** · 05-04-2012, 10:48 PM

Let me firstly clarity that I'm not a "wahhabi" but I don't have any sympathy for pseudo-"traditional" scholars stooges of the tawagheet.

The khawarij are not authorities to decide who committed kufr or not and what actions should be done in response..there are Islamic scholars and those in authority who will analyse that by due process and there are shariah way of correcting it if ur allegations of kufr has some truth in it. Not wearing a hijab and having a non hijabi girls poster on a street does not make one a kafir.

Who's saying that?

The point is that Shari'ah has to be implemented, if ""islamic scholars" don't act in this direction and prefer to live in the shade of tawaghit governements applying kafir systems of law, it's their fault, not that of other groups taking initiative.
And we don't need scholars to judge when something is apparent, i.e. system of kufr being applied instead of Shari'ah.

There is no asbaiyyah here. Its about people enforcing their own self styled cultural bedoin islam using the threat of gun, on another people who have their historical tradition of islam handed down to them through a chain of authorities.

This rethoric on "traditional Islam with 'ijazah" doesn't absolve anyone from his duties.
Applying Shari'ah is fard.
Why hasn't this "people who have their historical tradition of islam handed down to them through a chain of authorities" made any effort in this regard leaving the job to salafis?
And after that, even worse, countered their efforts on the ground of hizbiyyah, instead of joining their forces or even better, sobstituiting to them and run proper "wise traditional bla bla" Shari'ah instead of leaving it to them and staying safe under the shade of kuffar tyrants?

05-04-2012, 10:48 PM	#14
Precturge Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 585 Senior Member	Let me firstly clarity that I'm not a "wahhabi" but I don't have any sympathy for pseudo-"traditional" scholars stooges of the tawagheet. The khawarij are not authorities to decide who committed kufr or not and what actions should be done in response..there are Islamic scholars and those in authority who will analyse that by due process and there are shariah way of correcting it if ur allegations of kufr has some truth in it. Not wearing a hijab and having a non hijabi girls poster on a street does not make one a kafir. Who's saying that? The point is that Shari'ah has to be implemented, if ""islamic scholars" don't act in this direction and prefer to live in the shade of tawaghit governements applying kafir systems of law, it's their fault, not that of other groups taking initiative. And we don't need scholars to judge when something is apparent, i.e. system of kufr being applied instead of Shari'ah. There is no asbaiyyah here. Its about people enforcing their own self styled cultural bedoin islam using the threat of gun, on another people who have their historical tradition of islam handed down to them through a chain of authorities. This rethoric on "traditional Islam with 'ijazah" doesn't absolve anyone from his duties. Applying Shari'ah is fard. Why hasn't this "people who have their historical tradition of islam handed down to them through a chain of authorities" made any effort in this regard leaving the job to salafis? And after that, even worse, countered their efforts on the ground of hizbiyyah, instead of joining their forces or even better, sobstituiting to them and run proper "wise traditional bla bla" Shari'ah instead of leaving it to them and staying safe under the shade of kuffar tyrants?
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