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**usatramadolusa** · 06-23-2012, 03:11 AM

time for some old-school jihad. as brother umar_italy said 'years of work of tabligh (for society) can be undone in an instant by some laws promulgated by the secular rulers'

No, we do not need military jihad, we need economic and organizational jihad. However Muslims in Muslim lands should all own weapons and guns this is a great deterrent preventing the state from attacking you, they must only be used as a last option, we have not reached that stage yet. At the moment we should be building new institutions within the existing state, by-pass it, peacefully and without causing any harm to anybody...slowly these will become powerful and they will win. Millitary jihad, rebellion, marching in the streets are just useless ways to change modern governments, they only bring about bloodshed, loss of security and no real change.

"Peaceful action" simply means not deliberately provoking the state to repression, but rather doing whatever is possible (in the words of the Wobbly slogan) to "build the structure of the new society within the shell of the old" before we try to break the shell. There is nothing wrong with resisting the state if it tries, through repression, to reverse our progress in building the institutions of the new society. But revolutionary action should meet two criteria: 1) it should have strong popular support; and 2) it should not take place until we have reached the point where peaceful construction of the new society has reached its limits within existing society.

06-23-2012, 03:11 AM	#21
usatramadolusa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	time for some old-school jihad. as brother umar_italy said 'years of work of tabligh (for society) can be undone in an instant by some laws promulgated by the secular rulers' No, we do not need military jihad, we need economic and organizational jihad. However Muslims in Muslim lands should all own weapons and guns this is a great deterrent preventing the state from attacking you, they must only be used as a last option, we have not reached that stage yet. At the moment we should be building new institutions within the existing state, by-pass it, peacefully and without causing any harm to anybody...slowly these will become powerful and they will win. Millitary jihad, rebellion, marching in the streets are just useless ways to change modern governments, they only bring about bloodshed, loss of security and no real change. "Peaceful action" simply means not deliberately provoking the state to repression, but rather doing whatever is possible (in the words of the Wobbly slogan) to "build the structure of the new society within the shell of the old" before we try to break the shell. There is nothing wrong with resisting the state if it tries, through repression, to reverse our progress in building the institutions of the new society. But revolutionary action should meet two criteria: 1) it should have strong popular support; and 2) it should not take place until we have reached the point where peaceful construction of the new society has reached its limits within existing society.
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