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**usatramadolusa** · 06-24-2012, 08:40 PM

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This is excellent but how do we even begin when there is so much disunity and mistrust amongst Muslims. Muslims trust kafirs over Muslim organisations, how are they going to select ameers and communities to hand over their money to - how to develop trust, confidence in motivation in such radical proposals. We can start small, for example 10 people trust each other they appoint an Amir from amongst themselves. The Barakaa of following the Sunnah will bring increase insha-Allah. Some Muslims have already started doing it, they already mint the Gold Dinar and Silver Dirham, they are big in some places like Indonisia.

People may hate government but they still trust it with their security especially financial. Also stuff like markets without charging rent etc. will fall foul of government laws at some stage - the government is not going to allow people to be independent of them especially where money is concerned - this is one of the reasons for the massive drives against cash in hand, so that eveything is electronic and has to go through banks. Yes we are forced to use government issued paper money, but we can start to at least convert some of our paper into Dinar and Dirham. The markets would be small at first, let us say some Muslims get together and purchase a huge warehouse and they allow Muslims to put up stalls inside the warehouse free...so anyone can go and setup a stall...we would all benefit. The state may want to put a stop to it but we could legally fight the state using their own laws...it does not mean that we just do not do anything. Insha-Allah this will be a step towards achieving greater freedom. In America you have many non Muslim organizations doing similar things....

see:

http://oath-keepers.blogspot.co.uk/2...orders-we.html

http://www.alt-market.com/

Islamic Gold Dinar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_gold_dinar

06-24-2012, 08:40 PM	#40
usatramadolusa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	[Q UOTE=Saj;782381] This is excellent but how do we even begin when there is so much disunity and mistrust amongst Muslims. Muslims trust kafirs over Muslim organisations, how are they going to select ameers and communities to hand over their money to - how to develop trust, confidence in motivation in such radical proposals. We can start small, for example 10 people trust each other they appoint an Amir from amongst themselves. The Barakaa of following the Sunnah will bring increase insha-Allah. Some Muslims have already started doing it, they already mint the Gold Dinar and Silver Dirham, they are big in some places like Indonisia. People may hate government but they still trust it with their security especially financial. Also stuff like markets without charging rent etc. will fall foul of government laws at some stage - the government is not going to allow people to be independent of them especially where money is concerned - this is one of the reasons for the massive drives against cash in hand, so that eveything is electronic and has to go through banks. Yes we are forced to use government issued paper money, but we can start to at least convert some of our paper into Dinar and Dirham. The markets would be small at first, let us say some Muslims get together and purchase a huge warehouse and they allow Muslims to put up stalls inside the warehouse free...so anyone can go and setup a stall...we would all benefit. The state may want to put a stop to it but we could legally fight the state using their own laws...it does not mean that we just do not do anything. Insha-Allah this will be a step towards achieving greater freedom. In America you have many non Muslim organizations doing similar things.... see: http://oath-keepers.blogspot.co.uk/2...orders-we.html http://www.alt-market.com/ Islamic Gold Dinar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_gold_dinar
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