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**Kghyutgykim** · 06-26-2012, 09:08 PM

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Isn't that shirk according neo salaf ? i guess if a wahabest does it its 'Sunnah'pathetic

what? no its not shirk according to "neo salaf". Your mixing up salafis with jihadis. We dont make takfeer of muslim rulers except in important situations where a clear benefit can be gained and clear kufr akbar has been comitted and we have been preceeded by ulema in the takfeer.

I dont make takfeer of tehlikes of turkey or indonesia or malaysia dispite heavy sufi populations because I dont let my theological position cause me to be injust as these are my muslim brotehrs and we need to be constructive an do the best of our situation.

Let me remind you taht we all contribute to the riba economy and those of us who live in kuffar lands and pay taxes, our money is even funding aggression against muslim lands, so what is our excuse? Why does that excuse not equally apply to saudi? Or turkey or indonesia?

06-26-2012, 09:08 PM	#21
Kghyutgykim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	[QUOTE=Ibrahimhanifa;783320] Isn't that shirk according neo salaf ? i guess if a wahabest does it its 'Sunnah'pathetic what? no its not shirk according to "neo salaf". Your mixing up salafis with jihadis. We dont make takfeer of muslim rulers except in important situations where a clear benefit can be gained and clear kufr akbar has been comitted and we have been preceeded by ulema in the takfeer. I dont make takfeer of tehlikes of turkey or indonesia or malaysia dispite heavy sufi populations because I dont let my theological position cause me to be injust as these are my muslim brotehrs and we need to be constructive an do the best of our situation. Let me remind you taht we all contribute to the riba economy and those of us who live in kuffar lands and pay taxes, our money is even funding aggression against muslim lands, so what is our excuse? Why does that excuse not equally apply to saudi? Or turkey or indonesia?
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