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**Kghyutgykim** · 06-27-2012, 02:12 AM

Brother AbuFatimah,

Statistics on wikipedia and 'economic reports' mean nothing when the ground realities are different.

I just want to point out two things and i take a leave as this discussion is never ending..

1) If saudi economic is roaring, universities are doing great break thrus and theres no shortage of funds, then why are professional, hardworking, genius, qualified 'EXPAT' professors, lecturers, technicians kicked out of saudi universities every year esp this year so that saudis can get jobs and replace them with double salaries and do half the work? And keep in mind that most of these breakthrus and researches are done by expats but the name in the journals are of saudis.

2) recently there wad a report on arabnews that around 300,000 saudis got jobs and this saudiazation is a big success. Now if we go by your logic of trusting the reports, then we would sit and applaud. But if you are on the ground and go and ask any saudi if this is true then he will show you the real picture!

Please do some ground research about this matter of saudis getting jobs. I would like to see the results of your research insha'Allah.

And yes sorry, its not just govt taxes and fees, they earn billions from umrah and hajj also

a saudi on the ground is anecdotal evidence and cannot be considered as evidence because he wont know the situation of the country, only his personal experience in the one or two cities he spends a lot of time in. There is absolutely no way a person can tell me that all the proofs I can bring up from journals etc are false but some guy on teh net who claims that he knows someone who lives there who said x,y,z should be considered as a 100% accurate source of info. Thats just absurd. "Arabnews said x,y and z but that cant be true coz my mates from saudi and he said no way does it feel like 300,000 saudis have gotten jobs". For starters what about all the saudi women now working in underwear shops, that was a recent development that would contribute to statistcs.

question 2 has answered question 1. The reason they kick out expats is because they are slowly trying to take over everything with their native population so that they can continue to power their country after the oil money dries up and all the expats pack up and leave for the next financially booming country.

If your claiming this research was done by a westerner then you need to provide evidence.

I know absolutely tonnes of saudis who are working as engineers and other various jobs, I even have met a saudi fighter pilot so I know tehre are Saudis who are working but as I said, you cant make up statistics based on your personal experiences

06-27-2012, 02:12 AM	#28
Kghyutgykim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	Brother AbuFatimah, Statistics on wikipedia and 'economic reports' mean nothing when the ground realities are different. I just want to point out two things and i take a leave as this discussion is never ending.. 1) If saudi economic is roaring, universities are doing great break thrus and theres no shortage of funds, then why are professional, hardworking, genius, qualified 'EXPAT' professors, lecturers, technicians kicked out of saudi universities every year esp this year so that saudis can get jobs and replace them with double salaries and do half the work? And keep in mind that most of these breakthrus and researches are done by expats but the name in the journals are of saudis. 2) recently there wad a report on arabnews that around 300,000 saudis got jobs and this saudiazation is a big success. Now if we go by your logic of trusting the reports, then we would sit and applaud. But if you are on the ground and go and ask any saudi if this is true then he will show you the real picture! Please do some ground research about this matter of saudis getting jobs. I would like to see the results of your research insha'Allah. And yes sorry, its not just govt taxes and fees, they earn billions from umrah and hajj also a saudi on the ground is anecdotal evidence and cannot be considered as evidence because he wont know the situation of the country, only his personal experience in the one or two cities he spends a lot of time in. There is absolutely no way a person can tell me that all the proofs I can bring up from journals etc are false but some guy on teh net who claims that he knows someone who lives there who said x,y,z should be considered as a 100% accurate source of info. Thats just absurd. "Arabnews said x,y and z but that cant be true coz my mates from saudi and he said no way does it feel like 300,000 saudis have gotten jobs". For starters what about all the saudi women now working in underwear shops, that was a recent development that would contribute to statistcs. question 2 has answered question 1. The reason they kick out expats is because they are slowly trying to take over everything with their native population so that they can continue to power their country after the oil money dries up and all the expats pack up and leave for the next financially booming country. If your claiming this research was done by a westerner then you need to provide evidence. I know absolutely tonnes of saudis who are working as engineers and other various jobs, I even have met a saudi fighter pilot so I know tehre are Saudis who are working but as I said, you cant make up statistics based on your personal experiences
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