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**evammaUselp** · 06-27-2012, 06:07 PM

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well I think that the idea of turkey being better islamicly than saudi is laughable, turkey is a staunch secularist country and has been for the last hundred years. Atheism is rampant, as are bars and alcohol and brothels, turkey has to be one of the least islamic countries.

Its not true that turkey doesnt have oil, or taht turkey doesnt import weaponry from teh kuffar though, I wish people would stick to facts rather than saying what they THINK or WISH was true:

Bro dont distort my post. My post clearly implies that saudi backbone is oil and you cant compare Turkey and Saudia. I didnt say Turkey produces everything on their own. However Turkey is the most advanced Muslim nation and the turkish people are predominantly responsible for that, not westerners or other nationals. You cant put saudia and turkey on the same platform - one has worked hard learning the good ideas of the west, importing science and technology, innovating, manufacturing and participating in the global economy through manufacturing and tertiary industries. Where as the other has predominantly gold under their feet which has bought most of what they have including material, technology and science from the west and labourers from philipines, bangladesh and skilled workers from western countries. All this was not bartered for indigenous saudi talent, innovation, hardwork or skill but rather through saudi possession of black gold.

Atheism is rampant in Turkey is a statement you make on hearsay and anecdotal experiences of people. I dont like hearsay because for example I have heard some of my friends say Gays are rampant in Saudia and the guy was an Arab who had lived in saudia. So dont go on hearsay and anecdotes please and make stupid statements like alot of turkish are atheist. What do you want me to say when someone tells me alot of SAudis are homos? As far as I know Turkey is one the the countries where the belief in evolution and darwinism is the least in the world.

And the oil is not a bad thing. It is Allah's blessing to the Saudis. I pray they find more oil and petrol to sustain their quality of life after all they are our muslim brothers and sisters as well who mean no harm but are pervaded by a less than ideal way of Islamic thinking.

06-27-2012, 06:07 PM	#39
evammaUselp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 427 Senior Member	[QUOTE=AbuFatimah;783692] well I think that the idea of turkey being better islamicly than saudi is laughable, turkey is a staunch secularist country and has been for the last hundred years. Atheism is rampant, as are bars and alcohol and brothels, turkey has to be one of the least islamic countries. Its not true that turkey doesnt have oil, or taht turkey doesnt import weaponry from teh kuffar though, I wish people would stick to facts rather than saying what they THINK or WISH was true: Bro dont distort my post. My post clearly implies that saudi backbone is oil and you cant compare Turkey and Saudia. I didnt say Turkey produces everything on their own. However Turkey is the most advanced Muslim nation and the turkish people are predominantly responsible for that, not westerners or other nationals. You cant put saudia and turkey on the same platform - one has worked hard learning the good ideas of the west, importing science and technology, innovating, manufacturing and participating in the global economy through manufacturing and tertiary industries. Where as the other has predominantly gold under their feet which has bought most of what they have including material, technology and science from the west and labourers from philipines, bangladesh and skilled workers from western countries. All this was not bartered for indigenous saudi talent, innovation, hardwork or skill but rather through saudi possession of black gold. Atheism is rampant in Turkey is a statement you make on hearsay and anecdotal experiences of people. I dont like hearsay because for example I have heard some of my friends say Gays are rampant in Saudia and the guy was an Arab who had lived in saudia. So dont go on hearsay and anecdotes please and make stupid statements like alot of turkish are atheist. What do you want me to say when someone tells me alot of SAudis are homos? As far as I know Turkey is one the the countries where the belief in evolution and darwinism is the least in the world. And the oil is not a bad thing. It is Allah's blessing to the Saudis. I pray they find more oil and petrol to sustain their quality of life after all they are our muslim brothers and sisters as well who mean no harm but are pervaded by a less than ideal way of Islamic thinking.
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