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**DumbNelmcrece** · 06-26-2012, 06:41 PM

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can you provide a reference and the exact wording of the hadeeth

Not at the moment.

also, socialism is far more logical and inline with islam than capitalism. Depends on your definition, Capitalism minus riba is not Capitalism. Socialism by individuals not government is Islamic.

Would you rather have a state owned media, or a privately owned media? Would you rather the state owns the assets of the nations or powerful wealthy unaccountable individuals? Would you rather defence companies have the option of simply moving abroad with all their assets, or would you rather they are state owned? Defense contractors are private companies they are profitable only because of the riba economy, where governments confiscate peoples money and buys the products. Privately owned media that is regulated is better than state owned media.

We dont follow either ideology in totality, but there is a lot of good in socialism that I personally would implement if i was the khalifah. You sound like a dangerous man...people like this should be prevented from gaining power.

Can you provide any evidence for your suggested system being better than socialist principles? Also can you provide full details of what you propose as a system? You do not need a system, the Salafus Salih did not have a system, they simply governed knowing that they did not have the power to spy on people or to control them, or ther money.

Saudi is secular in the sense that it has a Central Bank that is based on Riba and it spreads this version of Islam abroad.

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DumbNelmcrece Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	[QUOTE] can you provide a reference and the exact wording of the hadeeth Not at the moment. also, socialism is far more logical and inline with islam than capitalism. Depends on your definition, Capitalism minus riba is not Capitalism. Socialism by individuals not government is Islamic. Would you rather have a state owned media, or a privately owned media? Would you rather the state owns the assets of the nations or powerful wealthy unaccountable individuals? Would you rather defence companies have the option of simply moving abroad with all their assets, or would you rather they are state owned? Defense contractors are private companies they are profitable only because of the riba economy, where governments confiscate peoples money and buys the products. Privately owned media that is regulated is better than state owned media. We dont follow either ideology in totality, but there is a lot of good in socialism that I personally would implement if i was the khalifah. You sound like a dangerous man...people like this should be prevented from gaining power. Can you provide any evidence for your suggested system being better than socialist principles? Also can you provide full details of what you propose as a system? You do not need a system, the Salafus Salih did not have a system, they simply governed knowing that they did not have the power to spy on people or to control them, or ther money. Saudi is secular in the sense that it has a Central Bank that is based on Riba and it spreads this version of Islam abroad.
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