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**Kghyutgykim** · 06-27-2012, 04:51 PM

In essence, you believe the government has the right to steal privately owned businesses and corporations, you have no salaf-many of the sahaba were successful and rich traders, they would not have approved if the caliphs stole their private properties, it is enough they paid zakah.

please bring proof for state ownership from islamic sources, because i cant find any precedence for it, the caliphs applied the hukm of allah and the sunna of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم

akhi I never said teh state can steal property, nor have I advocated one quanitity of wealth for everyone. In fact I clearly said this is something I disagree with in communism. But the state should run the army, health service, electricty grid, defence and science research, space exploration, media and other key things. The cleaner shouldnt get paid the same as the rocket scientist however.

As for trade, no problem with this, grocery stores shouldnt be state owned. And the state shoudlnt steal property off of individuals, but no muslim can claim to own the vats oil fields in teh muslim land, this wealth shoudl belong to all muslims and we should all benefit in the way of roads etc, rather than one person becoming a billionairre from it.

06-27-2012, 04:51 PM	#18
Kghyutgykim Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	In essence, you believe the government has the right to steal privately owned businesses and corporations, you have no salaf-many of the sahaba were successful and rich traders, they would not have approved if the caliphs stole their private properties, it is enough they paid zakah. please bring proof for state ownership from islamic sources, because i cant find any precedence for it, the caliphs applied the hukm of allah and the sunna of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم akhi I never said teh state can steal property, nor have I advocated one quanitity of wealth for everyone. In fact I clearly said this is something I disagree with in communism. But the state should run the army, health service, electricty grid, defence and science research, space exploration, media and other key things. The cleaner shouldnt get paid the same as the rocket scientist however. As for trade, no problem with this, grocery stores shouldnt be state owned. And the state shoudlnt steal property off of individuals, but no muslim can claim to own the vats oil fields in teh muslim land, this wealth shoudl belong to all muslims and we should all benefit in the way of roads etc, rather than one person becoming a billionairre from it.
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