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**adolfadsermens** · 04-05-2012, 11:42 PM

No one talked about "neccessity". Its about permissibility. The hadiths are enough evidence. I can't help your literalist appraoch of expecting a statement "women are allowed to play so and so in so and so place at sso and so time". No proofs are obtained tht way. A general eevidence is enough and it is onus upon you to come and provide evidence for your prohibitions. No one gave you the right to declare something haraam, as far as i know. And even in the principle of bidah, everyone across the sectarian board admits that in matters not related to worship, everything is permissible until proven forbidden. If there is any onus existing its about you for your holier than thou appraoch expecting all Muslims to be ascetic saints and for declaring things as haram by your personal desire.

What evidence do the hadiths suggest? Which hadith is to be used as evidence for women participating in sporting events? Please provide your evidence. On the contrary the hadiths are replete and the kutub of the fuqaha are replete with evidence stating that a lady is an object of concealment. Even her voice is awrah! Never mind competing in sporting events.

I am again requesting you to provide evidence from the sources of the Shariah to state that women are allowed to participate in sporting events? There were major sporting events held by the kuffaar and were these adopted by the Muslims? The Romans and the Persians would hold regular entertainment? Were any forms of these entertainments adopted by the Sahaabah or the Fuqaha??

You need to provide evidence that gives permissiblity for the khurooj of women to attend sporting events? Is attending a sporting event a necessity in the Shariah as you must be aware that the Shariah has limited women's khurooj to dire necessity. You must also be aware of the conditions for women's khurooj even if it is due to dire necessity. Please read the fiqh kutub for a more thorough understanding instead of providing baatil justification.

04-05-2012, 11:42 PM	#31
adolfadsermens Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 445 Senior Member	No one talked about "neccessity". Its about permissibility. The hadiths are enough evidence. I can't help your literalist appraoch of expecting a statement "women are allowed to play so and so in so and so place at sso and so time". No proofs are obtained tht way. A general eevidence is enough and it is onus upon you to come and provide evidence for your prohibitions. No one gave you the right to declare something haraam, as far as i know. And even in the principle of bidah, everyone across the sectarian board admits that in matters not related to worship, everything is permissible until proven forbidden. If there is any onus existing its about you for your holier than thou appraoch expecting all Muslims to be ascetic saints and for declaring things as haram by your personal desire. What evidence do the hadiths suggest? Which hadith is to be used as evidence for women participating in sporting events? Please provide your evidence. On the contrary the hadiths are replete and the kutub of the fuqaha are replete with evidence stating that a lady is an object of concealment. Even her voice is awrah! Never mind competing in sporting events. I am again requesting you to provide evidence from the sources of the Shariah to state that women are allowed to participate in sporting events? There were major sporting events held by the kuffaar and were these adopted by the Muslims? The Romans and the Persians would hold regular entertainment? Were any forms of these entertainments adopted by the Sahaabah or the Fuqaha?? You need to provide evidence that gives permissiblity for the khurooj of women to attend sporting events? Is attending a sporting event a necessity in the Shariah as you must be aware that the Shariah has limited women's khurooj to dire necessity. You must also be aware of the conditions for women's khurooj even if it is due to dire necessity. Please read the fiqh kutub for a more thorough understanding instead of providing baatil justification.
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