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**Suvaxal** · 11-19-2010, 06:57 AM

Assalam Alaikum.

Dear Doctor Sahab, your writing skills are fantastic. MashAllah may Allah reward you, ameen. This is great stuff. However, for people who have already made up their minds about the effort, will not benefit much from this.

The very start of the bayan is great. Everyone should read these lines by Maulana Saad (DB) over and over again ..

Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned....

Why have yu added the word " ( by itself ) " ? This has completely changed the real meaning of the original quote !!!

Personally, I think that , if the quote " This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis" is used out of context by the Salafi minded TJ guys, the TJ will soon be drowned into oblivion in our lifetime. Because, the quote using "by itself " gives an impression that the TJ work is self-sufficient , without the need to get guidance from a real Wali-Allah , I mean , sufi shaykh.

What that quote actually means that " This work is Wali producing .... it can turn peple into Walis " because of its power to get people bonded with real sufi shaykhs and ulama residing in their locality !!!!

11-19-2010, 06:57 AM	#13
Suvaxal Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	Assalam Alaikum. Dear Doctor Sahab, your writing skills are fantastic. MashAllah may Allah reward you, ameen. This is great stuff. However, for people who have already made up their minds about the effort, will not benefit much from this. The very start of the bayan is great. Everyone should read these lines by Maulana Saad (DB) over and over again .. Maulwi Ilyas(ra) sahab used to say, "This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis". If one does not have (absolute) certitude of success, spiritual reformation, guidance and forward progress with the work......then the work will be taken lightly and discarded........which is why my respected brothers, friends and elders......what we need most is belief in the work and full understanding so that we develop firmness and fortitude (istiqama) in this work.....if one does not believe in it...then he will take it lightly and leave it....and moreover the work will be considered as ineffective and abandoned.... Why have yu added the word " ( by itself ) " ? This has completely changed the real meaning of the original quote !!! Personally, I think that , if the quote " This work is Wali producing....it(by itself) can turn people into Walis" is used out of context by the Salafi minded TJ guys, the TJ will soon be drowned into oblivion in our lifetime. Because, the quote using "by itself " gives an impression that the TJ work is self-sufficient , without the need to get guidance from a real Wali-Allah , I mean , sufi shaykh. What that quote actually means that " This work is Wali producing .... it can turn peple into Walis " because of its power to get people bonded with real sufi shaykhs and ulama residing in their locality !!!!
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