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**Joircarm** · 06-15-2012, 07:17 PM

The core belief of Pantheism is that God and Creation are not seperate (a'udhu billah). It's in the etymology of the word. This belief has no place in Islam and is completely contrary to Monotheism.

Reverance for nature has nothing to do with being a Pantheist, they're not mutually exclusive subjects. Nor is it a requirement of Pantheism that you worship or revere nature; merely that you believe creation is indistinguishable from God (a'udhu billah).

I personally respect the environment and creation of Allah because it's something a Muslim is supposed to do. Not because I believe Nature has any inherent value or importance.

In October 1993, Prince Charles addressed a Muslim university of which he is Patron:

"At the heart of Islam is its preservation of an integral view of the Universe. Islam - like Buddhism and Hinduism - refuses to separate man and nature, religion and science, mind and matter, and has preserved a metaphysical and unified view of ourselves and the world around us".

In June 2010, Prince Charles addressed his Patron Muslim university (The Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies):

"My understanding of Islam is that it warns that to deny the reality of our inner being leads to inner darkness which can quickly extend outwards into the world of Nature. If we ignore the calling of the soul, then we destroy Nature. To understand this, we have to remember that we are Nature... we reflect the universal patterns of Nature. From what I know of the Qu'ran, again and again it describes the natural world as the handiwork of a unitary benevolent power. It very explicitly describes Nature as possessing an 'intelligibility' and that there is no separation between the natural world and God. It offers a completely integrated view of the Universe where religion and science, mind and matter are all part of one living conscious whole. We are, therefore, finite beings contained by an infinitude, and each of us is a microcosm of the whole. This suggests to me that Nature is a knowing partner, never a mindless slave... Islam is very clear... the important principle we must keep in mind is that there are limits to the abundance of Nature... Muslims are commanded not to transgress them... the wisdom and learning offered by a sacred tradition like Islam matters... The Islamic world is the custodian of one of the greatest treasuries of accumulated wisdom and spiritual knowledge available to humanity. It is both Islam's noble heritage and a priceless gift to the rest of the world. And yet, so often, that wisdom is now obscured by the dominant drive towards Western materialism... Its wisdom is discovered through practice and in action... the importance of conservation is much easier if it is transmitted by religious leaders whose reference is Qur'anic teaching... 'the best of all Mosques is Nature herself'".

Is this true?

One of the greatest Islamic scholar's of the past, Bediuzzaman Said Nursi exposites this matter:

"Isa will return to earth in bodily form in the End Times and will contend and repudiate anti-religious ideologies that represent materialist and naturalist philosophy".

06-15-2012, 07:17 PM	#32
Joircarm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	The core belief of Pantheism is that God and Creation are not seperate (a'udhu billah). It's in the etymology of the word. This belief has no place in Islam and is completely contrary to Monotheism. Reverance for nature has nothing to do with being a Pantheist, they're not mutually exclusive subjects. Nor is it a requirement of Pantheism that you worship or revere nature; merely that you believe creation is indistinguishable from God (a'udhu billah). I personally respect the environment and creation of Allah because it's something a Muslim is supposed to do. Not because I believe Nature has any inherent value or importance. In October 1993, Prince Charles addressed a Muslim university of which he is Patron: "At the heart of Islam is its preservation of an integral view of the Universe. Islam - like Buddhism and Hinduism - refuses to separate man and nature, religion and science, mind and matter, and has preserved a metaphysical and unified view of ourselves and the world around us". In June 2010, Prince Charles addressed his Patron Muslim university (The Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies): "My understanding of Islam is that it warns that to deny the reality of our inner being leads to inner darkness which can quickly extend outwards into the world of Nature. If we ignore the calling of the soul, then we destroy Nature. To understand this, we have to remember that we are Nature... we reflect the universal patterns of Nature. From what I know of the Qu'ran, again and again it describes the natural world as the handiwork of a unitary benevolent power. It very explicitly describes Nature as possessing an 'intelligibility' and that there is no separation between the natural world and God. It offers a completely integrated view of the Universe where religion and science, mind and matter are all part of one living conscious whole. We are, therefore, finite beings contained by an infinitude, and each of us is a microcosm of the whole. This suggests to me that Nature is a knowing partner, never a mindless slave... Islam is very clear... the important principle we must keep in mind is that there are limits to the abundance of Nature... Muslims are commanded not to transgress them... the wisdom and learning offered by a sacred tradition like Islam matters... The Islamic world is the custodian of one of the greatest treasuries of accumulated wisdom and spiritual knowledge available to humanity. It is both Islam's noble heritage and a priceless gift to the rest of the world. And yet, so often, that wisdom is now obscured by the dominant drive towards Western materialism... Its wisdom is discovered through practice and in action... the importance of conservation is much easier if it is transmitted by religious leaders whose reference is Qur'anic teaching... 'the best of all Mosques is Nature herself'". Is this true? One of the greatest Islamic scholar's of the past, Bediuzzaman Said Nursi exposites this matter: "Isa will return to earth in bodily form in the End Times and will contend and repudiate anti-religious ideologies that represent materialist and naturalist philosophy".
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